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Vlad gave his answer to peace, Mr. President: We must re-arm Ukraine
NY Post ^ | 7/5/2025 | NY Post Editorial Board

Posted on 07/05/2025 5:16:07 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

Mr. President, we know you understand that the primary obstacle to peace in Ukraine is Russia’s aggression.

You said you were “disappointed” in the conversation with Russian dictator Vladimir Putin, and that you “don’t think he’s looking to stop.”

Putin again insisted he was unwilling to commit to a ceasefire until the “root causes” of the conflict were addressed.

For Vlad, the “root cause” is the existence of Ukraine.

He followed your call with the largest drone and missile strike of the war, killing at least one.

So why, Mr. President, is your administration punishing Ukraine?

The Pentagon has halted the anti-missile and drone weapons needed to protect the civilians of Kyiv. You remember the desperation on the face of the Ukrainian reporter you touchingly spoke to in the Netherlands, her fears for her husband and her family.

Why are we threatening to abandon her?

There is a belief, being pushed by twisted ideologues, that helping Ukraine is somehow hurting the United States, and not in our best interest. This couldn’t be further from the truth.

Officials claim we have a weapons shortage, but many of these arms were already allocated — some were already in Poland.

Ukraine is paying for them, partly from seized Russian assets and European grants, a stimulus for our industries to make more.

In fact, our military can use that money — and the intelligence it is gathering from Ukraine’s successful resistance — to make better drones and anti-missile technology.

It builds the foundation of the Golden Dome.

But most importantly, Ukraine’s fate sends a message to the world about America. Russia is not an economic superpower to be unlocked. It is a dying terrorist state. Putin is willing to spend the blood of his people in a last grasp for empire.

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To: marcusmaximus

Been saying it for three years. Not our war. Not our circus. Funding an adversary of Russia is by proxy fighting Russia. The Lusitania was torpedoed as a legitimate war target because of the same reason.

We should end all aid.


21 posted on 07/05/2025 5:54:12 AM PDT by Rural_Michigan
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To: marcusmaximus

What would the US send (that the US and Israel don’t need for their own defense) that would make a difference?


22 posted on 07/05/2025 6:06:06 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: backpacker_c

President Trump laughed at Tucker Carlson’s constant WW3 hysteria, too.


23 posted on 07/05/2025 6:06:23 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: Brian Griffin

More HIMARS and 155 mm cluster shells as well air to air missiles.


24 posted on 07/05/2025 6:08:11 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

B.S. Let Europe handle it. We’re all sick of Ukraine sucking us dry.


25 posted on 07/05/2025 6:11:36 AM PDT by Allegra (Thank you for your attention to this matter. )
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To: backpacker_c

According to the news, Russia just made the largest aerial attack on Ukraine since the war started. Radio news this morning (Fox News?) said one person had been killed.

Do these people understand that Russia is not really making war on the Ukraine? This may be “strenuous regime change with near-war aspects,” but it is not war. Go ahead, arm Ukraine with everything we have left in our war reserves, including tactical nukes. The next Russian attack could easily leave 10,000 dead.

Maybe that is the proper thing for us to do, but when someone demands arming Ukraine with everything we have, they need to spell out the likely and the possible results. And what they expect to come after that in terms of US readiness.


26 posted on 07/05/2025 6:13:07 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: marcusmaximus

When Putin talks of addressing “root causes” it’s his way of saying Ukraine should surrender and agree to merge with Russia, or at least cede large parts of it to Russia. Trump understands that too now. Well Trump gave him two options - easy and hard. Looks like it’s onto option two now.


27 posted on 07/05/2025 6:16:16 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: marcusmaximus

“U.S. goods trade with Vietnam totaled an estimated $149.6 billion in 2024. U.S. goods exports to Vietnam in 2024 were $13.1 billion, up 32.9 percent ($3.2 billion) from 2023. U.S. goods imports from Vietnam totaled $136.6 billion in 2024, up 19.3 percent ($22.1 billion) from 2023. The U.S. goods trade deficit with Vietnam was $123.5 billion in 2024, an 18.1 percent increase ($18.9 billion) over 2023.”

https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/southeast-asia-pacific/vietnam

Now I realize a lot of that is just Chinese product tariff fraud, but industrialization is a well-understood process.

Note: During the Vietnam War, there was talk of bombing Vietnam back into the Stone Age and talk that it was already there.


28 posted on 07/05/2025 6:19:01 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: marcusmaximus

The UK has this. Queer Starmer will back Ukraine. They don’t need us. You can’t spell UKraine without UK! Godspeed!


29 posted on 07/05/2025 6:24:56 AM PDT by HYPOCRACY (Wake up, smell the cat food in your bank account. )
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To: marcusmaximus

“Mr. President, we know you understand that the primary obstacle to peace in Ukraine is Russia’s aggression.”

With that statement nothing could be further from the truth. Mr. President, we know you understand that the primary obstacle to peace in Ukraine is NATO expansion would be the proper entry to any conversation regarding the conflict.


30 posted on 07/05/2025 6:32:48 AM PDT by Racketeer
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To: backpacker_c

What does the Reich want now, more 109’s and V2’s?


31 posted on 07/05/2025 6:37:27 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2025... RETURN OF THE JEDI….There’s really not much to)
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To: marcusmaximus

WIKI

A dual-purpose improved conventional munition (DPICM) is an artillery or surface-to-surface missile warhead designed to burst into submunitions at an optimum altitude and distance from the desired target for dense area coverage. The submunitions use both shaped charges for the anti-armor role, and fragmentation for the antipersonnel role, hence the nomenclature “dual-purpose”.

The first true DPICM was the 155 mm M483, produced in the 1970s. By 1975, an improved version, the M483A1, was being used. The projectile carried 88 M42/M46 grenade-like dual purpose submunitions.

On 10 July, Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) published an article supporting the supply of cluster munitions to Ukraine, arguing that a United States Army study of the Vietnam War had found that while it took approximately 13.6 high explosive shells for each enemy soldier killed. A shell firing DPICMs relied on average only 1.7 shells to kill an enemy soldier making it eight times as effective in producing casualties as standard high explosive projectiles. RUSI used an example of a trench, a direct hit by a high explosive round will spread shrapnel “within line of sight of the point of detonation”. This also reduces the wear and tear on the barrels of 155 mm artillery weapons systems.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual-purpose_improved_conventional_munition

Note: Trenches could be provided with safety nooks. Trenches with wave-like form could also be dug.


32 posted on 07/05/2025 6:38:51 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: marcusmaximus
He followed your call with the largest drone and missile strike of the war, killing at least one.

The largest drone/missile strike of the war and only one person killed?


33 posted on 07/05/2025 6:40:37 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: marcusmaximus

“Vlad gave his answer to peace, Mr. President: We must re-arm Ukraine”

With what, our good looks? Trump’s people already said that Biden cleaned out our weapons stocks, and, other than 155’s, there’s been virtually no ramping up of our meager production levels, not to mention China cutting us off from critical minerals.


34 posted on 07/05/2025 6:41:33 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Rural_Michigan
Not our war. Not our circus.

That is precisely wrong. It is our war, we wanted it and we paid for it. Now as we tire of it, we will abandon Ukrainians who have died for it.

We inveigled the Ukrainians into rejecting opportunity to negotiate peace with Russia by promising them support. We delivered that support, encourage them to fight on, we passed laws funding that support, visited them as president of the United States and expressed continued support, feted president Zelinski at a Joint Session of Congress, when we made new promises of aid and exhortations to continue to fight the war, and, unbelievably, unilaterally conducted unauthorized negotiations with Putin on Ukraine's behalf, falsely blamed Zelinski for starting the war and lied about the amount of financial aid we had sent.

It is our war, we helped cause it, we funded it, we trained Ukraine's soldiers and taught them how to wage it, we provided intelligence, and we imposed sanctions against Russia to help win it. Our fingerprints are all over it, yet it is not our blood but Ukrainian blood that has been shed in it.

Knowing this, tell us again whose "circus" is it that we have created?


35 posted on 07/05/2025 6:42:39 AM PDT by nathanbedford (Attack, repeat, attack! - Bull Halsey)
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To: marcusmaximus

Why must “we” re-arm Ukraine?

We owe them nothing. There are no treaty or other obligations involved.


36 posted on 07/05/2025 6:43:36 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: libh8er

“Trump understands that too now.”

So you understood that before Trump? Maybe you can cut to the chase and send Trump a list of what he should understand.

It has always amazed me how many times I have heard that “Trump doesn’t understand” line with the speaker/writer insinuating that it was so easily grasped by the said speaker/writer.


37 posted on 07/05/2025 6:44:37 AM PDT by odawg
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To: marcusmaximus
Start a Go-Fund-Me page for the grifter.
What is stopping you from getting your own rump over their to fight for your beloved Ukie dictator?
🤡

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38 posted on 07/05/2025 6:44:47 AM PDT by ANKE69 (“I said once that it smells of authoritarianism in our country. Now it stinks.” Vitali Klitschko)
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To: nathanbedford

No, this is zelensky’s, hunter and joe biden’s war

it is not ‘our war’


39 posted on 07/05/2025 6:46:50 AM PDT by backpacker_c
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To: marcusmaximus

NY Post Editorial Board, please tell me, what critical, national security interest does the US have in Ukraine?


40 posted on 07/05/2025 6:49:31 AM PDT by kawhill ("War is society's dirty work, usually done by kids cleaning up failures perpetrated by adults" Karl)
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