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Carnival’s New Rules Got Black Folks All in Their Feelings, But Others Say the Cruise Line is Justified
The Root ^ | 02 July 2025 | Angela Wilson

Posted on 07/04/2025 4:47:55 PM PDT by Drew68

Brawls, assaults, drunken fights, boots on the grounds and fans in hands just might have Carnival Cruise Line saying, "Enough is enough!" And some Black passengers are returning the favor, cancelling their existing reservations or cancelling the cruise line all together because they deem their new rules are racist. But some argue, "Are the new policies racist, or just restrictive?"

The discourse began after Carnival — who has the most allegations of serious crimes committed at sea than any other cruise line sailing from North America, per the FBI — implemented new rules. According to reports, as of June 1, Carnival passengers received a new letter to reinforce their guidelines and code of conduct.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Travel
KEYWORDS: angelawilson; carnival; carnivalcruise; carnivalcruiselines; clickbait; donate2freeepublic; fakenews; racism; section8ofthesea; theroot; wakanda
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To: Mr. Blond

Pray that your yacht never collides with Pete Buttigiegs dinghy. 😱


81 posted on 07/04/2025 9:03:33 PM PDT by alstewartfan (Old admiras who feel the wind Are never put to sea. Al Stewart)
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To: Rio
Thanks for showing me that. I was wondering what it was all about. Now that I've seen it, I can see how the combination of tight spots on cruise ships and the large fans can combine to make it dangerous for some.

-PJ

82 posted on 07/04/2025 9:10:48 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: alstewartfan

I already had to pry him off the jib.


83 posted on 07/04/2025 9:23:06 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: jonrick46

Black are the most religious race out there. Asians are the least. Somehow I don’t think they have these problems with their Asian passengers.


84 posted on 07/04/2025 9:25:31 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: Drew68

Like Charlie Murphy said: “They be gettin mad niggerish.”


85 posted on 07/04/2025 9:48:12 PM PDT by Az Joe (Live free or die)
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To: Drew68

Charlie Murphy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry2XlLKctiI


86 posted on 07/04/2025 9:49:53 PM PDT by Az Joe (Live free or die)
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To: Mr. Blond

That K-Y jelly sure comes in handy! 🛥️🕺


87 posted on 07/04/2025 9:50:28 PM PDT by alstewartfan (Old admiras who feel the wind Are never put to sea. Al Stewart)
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To: Drew68
So of the total number of passengers who cruse with Carnival, who has and have been shown to cause the most disruptions and crimes?

In the United States, the Black or African American population is estimated to be 15.2%

In 2023, nearly 17 million people from the United States went on cruises.

AI Overview

Based on the available information, it's difficult to provide a specific, up-to-date total number of Black or African Americans in the U.S. who go on cruise ships. However, some sources offer relevant insights:

Percent of Cruisers: A 2017 Cruise Lines International Association (CLIA) report indicates that African Americans represent 11% of cruisers. Survey Data: A 2007 report mentions that only 5% of survey respondents were African-American.

Lack of Specific Data: As of February 2023, there's a recognized gap in specific data on Black people cruising, including details about their travel destinations and spending habits.

5-11% Black or African American cruse goers.

The available search results provide general information about crimes reported on cruise ships in the US, including the total number of incidents and types of crimes. Some information is also provided about crimes committed by employees. However, none of the search results contain data broken down by the race of cruise ship passengers who have committed crimes or been arrested. Therefore, the total number of Black or African Americans in the US who have committed crimes or been arrested on cruise ships cannot be provided.

Summary of available information:

General Crime Statistics: The Department of Transportation and the FBI have released data on reported crimes on cruise ships.

Examples of Crimes Reported: The reported incidents include sexual assaults, assaults with serious bodily injury, and theft.

FBI Case Data (2002-2007): Between 2002 and 2007, the FBI opened 184 cases of crimes on cruise ships. In 46% of these cases, the suspect was an employee. 5-5.7% Black or African American staff members on Carnival cruise ships.

Missing information:

Data specifically on the race or ethnicity of cruise ship passengers who have committed crimes or been arrested.

The provided FBI tables seem to relate to general crime statistics within the US rather than specifically on cruise ships.

AI Overview

There's limited specific data available regarding the precise number of Black or African American staff members on Carnival cruise ships. However, some insights can be gleaned from the available search results:

Older Data: A 2007 CLIA source book indicated that only 5% of survey respondents were African American, but this figure does not specifically address crew members and their race.

Industry-wide Hospitality Context: A 2021 article about Black executives in the cruise industry notes that within the hospitality industry, one in 5.7 industry employees was Black, but this figure was significantly lower for higher-level executives within the industry.

Focus on Welcoming Black Guests and Staff: Carnival is described as doing a good job of catering to and welcoming Black cruisers and employs Black comedians, musicians, and entertainers.

General Observations: Discussions on online forums suggest a perception that Carnival has a diverse crowd and staff compared to some other cruise lines.

In summary, while definitive numbers are unavailable in the provided search results, there are indications of Black individuals being present on Carnival ships both as guests and staff. However, the exact proportion of Black or African American staff members is not specified.

Crime in the U.S. • 2019 • Crime in the U.S. 2019 • Tables • Table 43

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/table-43

Black or African American

Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter - 51.2%

Violent crime - 36.4%

Weapons; carrying, possessing, etc. - 41.8%

Drug abuse violations - 26.1%

Vandalism - 27.5%

Disorderly conduct - 30.7%

All other offenses (except traffic) - 26.3%

Oh yeah, I really want to get on one of those Carnival cruise ships.....

88 posted on 07/04/2025 10:02:52 PM PDT by BFW (loss of signal)
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To: qam1

89 posted on 07/04/2025 10:54:02 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftniks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: Rio

Looks like some strange line dance - with fans instead of cowboy hats.


90 posted on 07/04/2025 11:36:21 PM PDT by Bob Wills is still the king
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To: Seruzawa

“There was an article on the FR some time back about hotels in Africa that won’t accept American blacks as guests. Apparently the reputation gets around.”

A Nigerian (immigrant) friend of mine made a similar mistake. He then went home and brought back a decent wife.


91 posted on 07/04/2025 11:39:13 PM PDT by BobL
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To: jonrick46
You've nailed it.

Here's John Adams laying it out: "Because We have no Government armed with Power capable of contending with human Passions unbridled by morality and Religion. Avarice, Ambition, Revenge or Gallantry, would break the strongest Cords of our Constitution as a Whale goes through a Net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

A nation inhabited by huge numbers of folks addicted to porn, prescription and illicit drugs, junk food, smart phones and a-social media, a people who are grossly overweight, dress like undignified clowns and idiots, worship illiterate, feral Black thugs; a people who cover themselves in tatts and piercings and dye their hair blue, purple and red; a people who largely sit back while men dressed as women groom their children in libraries and a people who murder ~500,000 babies every year aren't exactly a "moral and religious people."

The Trump years are a temporary slowdown in America's continuing slide towards disaster and self- destruction.

I wish my take was bullsh*t, but every societal indicator hints that it's not.

There's too much societal dysfunction to undo to "right the ship," and attempts to do so would be met with howling pushback by the sickeningly narcissistic, up and coming "Do What Thou Wilt," "It's All About Me!" generation. Moving such folks away from their disgusting, selfish, self-indulgent mentalities would be impossible unless a massive, widespread, smartphone-destroying, poverty and starvation-inducing calamity struck the US.

92 posted on 07/05/2025 12:29:29 AM PDT by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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To: laplata; dfwgator

[What does that headline mean? I don’t speak jive.]

He says he’s ill and he needs to see the doctor.


93 posted on 07/05/2025 12:32:51 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in thays of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: JZelle

😂😂😂
👍


94 posted on 07/05/2025 1:51:43 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you are filthy animal !)
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To: Drew68

Feral Fatigue is real.


95 posted on 07/05/2025 3:19:01 AM PDT by Adder (End fascism...defeat all Democrats.)
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To: Seruzawa
I saw a short vid about a Jamaican hotel owner who doesn't want to reserve for African Americans. She said they trash the place, fight with each other and other guests, get too drunk and show no respect for the rules of the place

She has had it.

96 posted on 07/05/2025 3:39:22 AM PDT by SMARTY (In politics, stupidity is not a handicap. Napoleon Bonaparte I)
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To: Drew68

Where them fans at?
Got one stuck in an eye.....


97 posted on 07/05/2025 4:25:25 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Drew68

Where them fans at?
Got one stuck in an eye.....


98 posted on 07/05/2025 4:25:25 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Drew68

Dont matter to me, all cruises lost any chance that I will ever take one, except possibly a river cruise.


99 posted on 07/05/2025 4:43:58 AM PDT by weezel
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To: Rocco DiPippo

You nailed it!!!


100 posted on 07/05/2025 6:35:32 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftniks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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