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1 posted on 07/04/2025 3:53:36 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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Tsar Paul was the first European head of state to recognize the independence of the U.S., but Russia hardly gave it any support. Without the support of the French, the British would have ended the American rebellion in due course. Americans owed the French for their independence, not the Russians.


2 posted on 07/04/2025 3:58:34 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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Looks as if no specifics were given by Putin to support the claim.


3 posted on 07/04/2025 3:59:03 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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Putin is right of course. Russia did play a role in the formation of the United States. Maintaining a stance of armed neutrality, despite requests for military support from the crown. That was before rasputin and his communist thieves inspired the murder of 10 million people giving rise to the idiocracy of the USSR.

But laying all of that aside, there’s no reason why Americans and the Russians cannot be friends alongside the Chinese. We should all join together to oppose the real threat to civilization, which is the cancer of islamism and the jihad it’s child. And the stupidly deliberate ignorance of the democrats who try to use the jihad to propel their militancy.


6 posted on 07/04/2025 4:11:15 AM PDT by Samurai_Jack (This is not about hypocrisy, this is about hierarchy!)
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Yes, the entire world owes Russia a great debt for being the champion of liberty and freedom for a thousand years!

Can you even read that without laughing out loud?

Arrogant mongols.


9 posted on 07/04/2025 4:24:32 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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LOL. The slimy Russian midget needs to FO.


10 posted on 07/04/2025 4:27:45 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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Demetrius Augustine Gallitzin was an emigre Russian aristocrat and Catholic priest known as “The Apostle of the Alleghenies”

Also known by “Prince Gallitzin.”


12 posted on 07/04/2025 4:30:25 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim (Hail to Pitt!)
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Germany created the Soviet Union.

Not the worst geopolitical mistake the Germans ever made, but up there.


13 posted on 07/04/2025 4:42:47 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Nullius in verba)
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Not entirely false. You can say the same thing of any European country. Though Russia did its best to chase its people out. Especially its Jews.


19 posted on 07/04/2025 4:59:26 AM PDT by rbg81 (=)
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I can't believe I'm saying this but I believe Putin is sorta right. They did fight with us in WW 1 and WW 2. Now saying that Russia helped create the US, I'm not sure.

That said, I'd like to see Trump and Putin meet. Russia could be an ally for us. We need to team up against Islam.

20 posted on 07/04/2025 5:07:29 AM PDT by DeplorableTrumpSupporter (FKA ConservaTeen)
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John Quincy Adams, who some consider the most intelligent U.S. president ever, was a teenager going to school in Paris while his father, Thomas Jefferson, and Ben Franklin, were representing U.S. interests in France during the Revolution. The teenaged JQA, who was fluent in English and French, served as a translator for the American mission to the Russian court during the Revolution, when the diplomatic language of Europe was French.


27 posted on 07/04/2025 5:29:17 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Nullius in verba)
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Russia did Putin didn’t


28 posted on 07/04/2025 5:56:21 AM PDT by blitz128
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Saw a story which said that the sale of Alaska to Russia was a way to pay for Russias assistance during the civil war blockading the south. Russia figured Alaska was played out of furs so no big loss, never looked into it further to see if there was any truth in it


31 posted on 07/04/2025 6:14:51 AM PDT by blitz128
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New Russian Offensive Captures 30 SQKM Along Kharkiv-Belgorod Border

Kamyanske Has Collapsed l Us Stops Military Aid To Ukraine l A Complete Disaster For Ukraine

Chasiv Yar Collapsed After Months Of Massive Fighting l A Big Victory For Russian Forces

50 posted on 07/04/2025 8:50:05 AM PDT by Kazan
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Francis Dana

Dana left the Congress to accompany John Adams to Paris as a secretary to the diplomatic delegation.[3] In 1780, he was named as American minister to the Russian Empire, and while he never gained official recognition from Catherine the Great,[4] he remained in Saint Petersburg until 1783.

It should also be noted that as a teenager, John Quincy Adams was with Dana in St. Petersburg as a French translator.

51 posted on 07/04/2025 9:01:55 AM PDT by Ditto
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I’m not remembering very well but there was something like King George wanting to hire Russian mercenaries for the American Revolutionary War (Russian not Prussian) but Russia reneged on the deal. Britian was forced to quickly hire the Hessians instead. The deal made Britain mad at Russia for a long time.

Anyways Russians were almost on the wrong side of that war.


52 posted on 07/04/2025 9:30:39 AM PDT by Doctor Congo
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250 years ago the Brits, French, Spanish had their fingers in everything. Russia and other counties did not get involved.

The early Americans learned from that. You can choose to get involved...or to not get involved...or choose the time and place to get involved and not try to solve every injustice in the universe.


53 posted on 07/04/2025 9:41:01 AM PDT by spintreebob (ki .h )
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Oh BS.


55 posted on 07/04/2025 9:53:23 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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Pooti Poot is smoking dope again


79 posted on 07/04/2025 5:07:54 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (“I don’t really care, Margaret.”)
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