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1 posted on 07/03/2025 6:10:30 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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That turnaround—a wholesale reshaping of our world’s climate—has been attributable in large measure to humans,

Not what Time was saying in the late 1970s / early 1980s. But I guess being Time means never having to explain your past inconsistent articles.

2 posted on 07/03/2025 6:19:39 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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Oh, brother. They never stop.


4 posted on 07/03/2025 6:23:31 AM PDT by Huskrrrr (Alinsky, you magnificent Bastard, I read your book!)
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Time must hire the bottom of every class just to be sure they never have executive competition. These girls are dumb, really, rally dumb.


6 posted on 07/03/2025 6:25:47 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The sea level on the Atlantic Coast has risen two feet since 1776.


8 posted on 07/03/2025 6:27:29 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Nothing inflames unrest in the delusional, and nothing inflames unrest in the evil, like TRUTH.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Little Ice Age was still in effect in 1776. Ended around 1850.


10 posted on 07/03/2025 6:30:59 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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They’ve forgotten about Adapt and Overcome but now they think they’re God and can change the planet ,LOL


13 posted on 07/03/2025 6:34:21 AM PDT by butlerweave
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Can you work at a strip club and go to Heaven?

Can you work at Time and go to Heaven?


14 posted on 07/03/2025 6:35:43 AM PDT by alternatives?
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; Opinionated Blowhard; shelterguy; Huskrrrr
“The sun is not a totally constant star,” says Harper. “The power of the solar dynamo itself is changing.”

The article actually acknowledges the existence of one of the huge engines changing climate. Otherwise, this article is typical.

Turn a blank sheet of paper sideways. On the left write “weather event” in small letters, draw a circle around the words, and then draw a small arrow pointing to the right side. On the far right, write the words "manmade climate change” in small letters, draw a circle around the words, and then draw a small arrow pointing to the circle.

Is there not a large blank space in the middle? Have you ever seen a story which fills in this area? Have you ever read a story that uses words like sun and ocean, which are the two enormous engines determining temperature? Cannot the stories that you have seen be inserted into one or the other circles?

I will submit there is no evidence of man-made global warming because no adherent to the popular mythology will acknowledge the existence of the sun and oceans. All I have ever seen are fraudulent to accurate comments on weather events or physical phenomenon involving temperature followed by an assertion man-made global warming is the cause.

In the hard sciences of Math and Physics, the earth’s climate is known as an open system, meaning all influencers are probabilistic and not deterministic. Any assertions must be less than certain, but we are always treated to infallibility statements like those for the boiling point of water. Popular reasoning requires a complete disconnect between events and conclusions and is no more rigorous than Middle Age alchemy.

I have yet to find any article which attempts to measure the influence of the sun and ocean and then ascribe an increment to human activity. It was only since the late 70’s that it was possible to attempt to confirm changes in the sun’s radiance independent of earth. Without a rigorous solution involving those two enormous engines, models created provide outcomes no more elegant than what is left behind when a brand new puppy is turned loose in a house decorated with white carpets and white furniture.

16 posted on 07/03/2025 6:38:05 AM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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Hard to tell about 1776, but we know that it was once much warmer at the poles, based on the presence of coal deposits and warm blooded fossils of huge annimals there.


18 posted on 07/03/2025 6:53:37 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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20 posted on 07/03/2025 7:08:49 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (#PureBlood )
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I can’t wait until the mini ice age begins.


21 posted on 07/03/2025 7:10:20 AM PDT by huldah1776
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It's a crisis.

The only thing that can solve it is a boot stamping on a human face forever.

25 posted on 07/03/2025 7:32:10 AM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along.)
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Actually, I have climate records from the Pacific Coast, taken in 1769 during the Portola Expedition.

Juan Crespí, the highly reliable diarist of the Portolá Expedition, 24 September, 1769 in Jolon, San Antonio Valley, 25 miles northwest of Paso Robles, elevation 800 feet, behind two ridges of coastal mountains inland from Santa Barbara:

It is a very cold spot, with snow and heavy frosts [in September?]. Through the heathens belonging to this spot, we understand that in some years the snow falls a quarter, a half, or three quarters of a yard deep.

From the Diary of Gaspar de Portolá amid the Santa Lucia Mountains:

Dec. 19 …we travelled for three hours, passing the most difficult part of the range on which there was not a little snow [snip]

The 17th [January] we proceeded for about five hours, making [the same distance as] two marches on the previous journey, and came out on the Llano de la Puente, opposite the great sierra of snow-covered [San Gabriel] mountains…

From the 1769 account of the Portolá Expedition Engineer, Miguel Costansó:

Thursday, December 7 …in view of the few provisions that remained, the excessive cold, and, above all, the snow that was beginning to cover the mountain range beginning to co ver the mountain range - our commander himself resolved upon the return believing that if the passage over the mountains became impossible we should all perish.

They were planning to cross mountains in coastal Southern California. Why were they afraid of snow? The Diary notes that the packet San Carlos had supplied the expedition. From the ship’s log of Vicente Vila the prior spring, April 26 to May 1, 1769:

At sunrise, I was between four islands [in the Santa Barbara Channel] and the mainland the country high and mountainous with several high ridges extending northwest to southeast, all of them covered with snow, like the Sierras Nevadas [Snowy Mountains] of Granada on the coast between Motril and Salobreña near the Mediterranean. Following the notes of the sea pilot, Cabrera Bueno, I decided that they might be the ridges which the Philippine sailors call Sierras de Santa Lucia above Cape Conceptión [those along the channel are the Santa Ynez Mountains].

[snip]… Turning toward the mainland, I noted the extremity of it visible furthest to the westward, bearing WNW. The shore turned toward the southeast, high and broken by several high, snow-covered ridges [probably the Santa Ana Mountains; the entry also notes San Clemente Island]. The country inland, as I have said above, runs southeast.

These “snow covered ridges” (1,200–2,500 feet in elevation) extended all the way to San Diego Bay as visible from the ocean (deep water sailors were not fond of hugging the coast) at the end of April… in Southern California? It takes a lot of snow to cover ridges above Southern California beaches for over a week, where sea breezes should have kept temperatures warm, or rain should have melted it immediately. Yet this was mid-spring. Things were colder in California during the Little Ice Age,

More (including bibliographic references) here.
26 posted on 07/03/2025 7:45:47 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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The Founding Fathers were of sterner stuff than us. Considering that when the temperature goes above 72 degrees, there are many who go about in what is basically underwear, whereas our forebears dressed like this.


29 posted on 07/03/2025 7:59:08 AM PDT by jmcenanly (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.” ― Winston)
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Yet none of these climate change activists go after two of the biggest polluters on the earth - India and China.

It is ALWAYS the US that is targeted - and expected to pay for it all.


30 posted on 07/03/2025 8:09:26 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolutioan?)
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It was a Thursday, and the temperature at 6:00 a.m. was 68°F, going up to a warmish but still pleasant 76°F at 1:00 p.m., according to daily records kept by Virginia’s Thomas Jefferson.

Jefferson probably stepped outside onto an earthen street and used a mercury-based, analog thermometer that was subjectively accurate to 1/2 degree. 249 years later, Jefferson would have stepped outside onto a heat-absorbing concrete sidewalk, surrounded by heat-absorbing concrete streets and buildings, and use a digital thermometer objectively accurate to no less than 100th of a degree.

35 posted on 07/03/2025 8:45:07 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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Bro we get it, the only answer is global communism.

Ask yourself this why is China not concerned with “climate change”??

Easy they are already communists.

It’s sad that climate commies have hijacked the more pertinent issue of over population and resource depletion. Neither of which take global communism to solve. We as a species have the tools needed to solve both real issues without a boot to the face.


39 posted on 07/03/2025 11:03:51 PM PDT by GenXPolymath
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