Posted on 07/03/2025 5:50:03 AM PDT by MtnClimber
Our oldest daughter will be 29 in November. She has a wide circle of friends, most of whom are scattered across the country, so Facebook is how they stay in touch.
Let’s just say her voting for Trump this last November hasn’t gone over well -- at all. And she’s having a very rough time of it. Really struggling. Partially because that’s how lefties do you, but also because she’s genuinely trying to understand them and, crucially, have herself be understood. She’s highly intelligent, extremely articulate, and very careful with her language, but she’s still getting what we old-timers would call “flamed.” It’s hurting her heart enormously and as a result, it’s hurting mine, her mother.
And I don’t know how to help her. I’m struggling. She’s going through her foul progressive baptism like I did nearly twenty years ago with the coming of Obama on the scene. Back then, I had no idea how they’d lie, cheat, scheme, and steal, every minute of every day, without ceasing, without remorse, without, seemingly, any sense of fatigue. I had no idea how widespread it was. Oh, I knew the media and academia were hopelessly liberal, but I had no idea how poisonously progressive they were. I had no idea how intractable they were. Immune to any kind of reason or, as social media likes to call them, “receipts.”
One of our daughter’s most trafficked Facebook posts was one heavy with “receipts.” She provided all the proof any reasonable person would need to understand her thinking regarding the matter at hand. She used the Washington Post, The New York Times, etc. Outlets they hold dear (mostly). Nope. No good. They responded with “the feels.” She even asked, specifically, to please respond with links of their own, because she was open to their
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If you have one or two real friends, consider yourself lucky, you’re ahead of 99.9% of the planet.
Wonderful advice.
Thomas Sowell: “If you could reason with democrats there would bee no democrats.”
And thus not worth the effort.
It’s hard to cut family out of you life? Really? I had no problems at all with my liberal assed sister when I told her to F.O. for attempting to guilt ME for voting for gw bush. Had no problem at all telling my other sis when she tried that garbage because I didn’t vote for “the magic negro” to MYOFB and then told her if I NEVER saw her radical ass again it would be too soon. My two brothers were not political so we could talk without the insults and accusations of politics. Sadly one moved to Australia years ago and the other passed away a few years ago. You CAN break though the guilt of losing family members to the “red death” of politics. Remember friends...”only the WEAK apologize to the petulant” L.Star
Agreed
At all.
“It’s hurting her heart enormously and as a result, it’s hurting mine, her mother.”
The mother and daughter should recognize that their own emotions are driving this problem. Daughter cannot stop her “friends” from being driven by irrational ideology held emotionally. Right now her emotional attachment to the “friends” is controlling her. To get beyond her current angst, she must choose either to subordinate her true values to theirs, or move them out of the “close friends” column. Trying to change the “friends” core values isn’t going to work. No big “bridge-burning” breakup is required; engage only on non-political things like family, health, shared memories, etc.
It’s my experience that relationships with spouses, friends, business partners, etc. are not workable unless the parties have compatible core values. Daughter needs new friends who share hers.
Actually it is easy to understand leftists.
All you need do is realize they are exactly like spoiled children who have never been disciplined.
She needs to stop worrying about what others think.
Parents used to warn their children of three things.
1) Don’t talk about religion or politics. It goes nowhere except argument. If they crave an “echo chamber” for their ideas on the subject, there are plenty of places that offer just that.
2) Never talk to a “journalist” (a reporter), aka the scum of the earth. As soon as you open your mouth to them, they own you, and likely, your entire family. And this has been the case for a very long time.
3) Family business should be kept in the family.
Ner reason with a child when they are having a tantrum.
I have a “friend” who I actually like and have great conversation with on pretty much any topic not politics related. But politics is a totally different matter. He professes to be a republican but hasn’t voted GOP in the 30 years I’ve known him. He has a terminal case of TDS. He can’t give me one example for why he dislikes Trump but can recite all the Joy Reid garbage he listens to every day. He participated in our local “No Kings” activities.
Our problem is I’ve requested nicely, numerous times, to be taken off his political email list. We email regularly on other topics and talk often. But I don’t want his NYT, MSNBC laden emails. For some reason he can’t seem to understand that. And this goes back to Bush II and Obama days. I have noticed this when dealing with other progressive types. They won’t take no for an answer. They feel compelled to bombard you with their opinions, but don’t want yours in return.
I would tell this young woman to move on. She’s never going to change these people and if they are that hateful to her then they really aren’t her friends and maybe never were. I’ve had that experience. People who you thought were friends turn out to be at best acquaintances who hung around because you were of some use to them, but when that part of the relationship changed their affection did too, quickly.
You are 100% correct, and that position enrages them. I've had people try to scold me by saying that Jesus wouldn't be a Republican or a democrat. While that's absolutely true; it's an argument from the wrong perspective.
It's tantamount to sacrilege to posit that Jesus would align Himself with any human organization. However, it is wise to flip the argument by asking,"which, if any, political group most closely aligns with Christian doctrine". The answer is obvious and the argument is over.
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exactly.
prayers up for that poor NICE girl.
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Called “Growing”. Growing up to a responsible adult and citizen.
Friends are former, called “shrinking”. Kick them to the curb.
Agreed. I’ve got 3-4, and feel very lucky
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its the secular humanists marxist religion.
and their evangelistic mania.
they literally think they must be the worlds SAVIOR. .
My best friend of 30 years became a raving, drooling liberal mess during the first Trump/Hitlery match up. Needless to say, I cut off that relationship when, after disagreeing with her on abortion, she said I had a black heart
You can’t reason with people that have no reasoning skills
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