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Posted on 07/03/2025 5:50:03 AM PDT by MtnClimber
Our oldest daughter will be 29 in November. She has a wide circle of friends, most of whom are scattered across the country, so Facebook is how they stay in touch.
Let’s just say her voting for Trump this last November hasn’t gone over well -- at all. And she’s having a very rough time of it. Really struggling. Partially because that’s how lefties do you, but also because she’s genuinely trying to understand them and, crucially, have herself be understood. She’s highly intelligent, extremely articulate, and very careful with her language, but she’s still getting what we old-timers would call “flamed.” It’s hurting her heart enormously and as a result, it’s hurting mine, her mother.
And I don’t know how to help her. I’m struggling. She’s going through her foul progressive baptism like I did nearly twenty years ago with the coming of Obama on the scene. Back then, I had no idea how they’d lie, cheat, scheme, and steal, every minute of every day, without ceasing, without remorse, without, seemingly, any sense of fatigue. I had no idea how widespread it was. Oh, I knew the media and academia were hopelessly liberal, but I had no idea how poisonously progressive they were. I had no idea how intractable they were. Immune to any kind of reason or, as social media likes to call them, “receipts.”
One of our daughter’s most trafficked Facebook posts was one heavy with “receipts.” She provided all the proof any reasonable person would need to understand her thinking regarding the matter at hand. She used the Washington Post, The New York Times, etc. Outlets they hold dear (mostly). Nope. No good. They responded with “the feels.” She even asked, specifically, to please respond with links of their own, because she was open to their
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Oldest daughter better get used to it. The left have no sense of good vs evil, except that they invert it.
Tell her to hold on to her faith. It’s far more important and longer-lasting than any of the mean girls.
Part of life is knowing when to cut loose certain “friends”
“…. because she’s genuinely trying to understand them”
There’s her problem. Facts, Logic, Reason have no place. Leftists have rejected all of this in recent years. It is strictly based on emotional, lizard brain appeals. It works particularly well on children, the idea generally is to infantalize everyone, through drugs, hypnosis, and relentless propaganda. Females are also especially susceptible.
Yep, oldest daughter still has some hard lessons to learn. These left / right personal conflicts only go one way, without exception. And social media is a poisonous cesspit. (Presumably FreeRepublic isn’t considered “social media.”)
EXACTLY!! 👍🏼
Having gone through this as well, there is nothing she can do to fix this. She needs to stop explaining or trying to reason with unreasonable people because it is a lesson in futility. She’s still young and still has time to make new, like-minded friends. She can start by joining organizations that have people who think like her and to also screen new people to mentally weed out those who don’t. It’s not going to get better, the country and this split is only going to get worse. Her current “friends” are not enriching her life, they are dragging her down. Not a good way to live.
She’s trying to convince religious zealots that they’re wrong...impossible.
If it isn’t possible to stay in touch with without politics creeping in to discussions, then stay off Facebook or unfriend the flamers and move on.
One simply cannot reason with those who feel instead of think.
Trying to have a discussion with angry white female liberals (AWFLs) is a waste of time.
When you’re the smartest person in the room, you’re in the wrong room.
She needs better friends.
That’s a hard lesson. I’m learning it. Have a 40 year friend who’s gone off on me, out of the blue, twice now about things political. Like a crazed lunatic, then apologized. Quite unsettling, and most unhealthy.
I found a long time ago that arguing with lefties on Facebook is futile. They are incapable of rational thought
“…. because she’s genuinely trying to understand them”
There’s her problem.
BINGO, there is no way to understand them and they will not listen.
Those don’t sound like friends to me. I’d point that out and suggest finding new ones.
At 66, I’ve discovered that a major element in achieving happiness in this life is to avoid idiots. It is foolish to try to reason with people who place all of their value on feelings. You simply cannot have a civil, fact-based discussion with irrational people, period. I’ve been saying for years that this will only end in bloodshed.
The woke morons do have one technique that I’ve grown to love: canceling those who disagree with you. I use it liberally whenever I encounter one of these lunatics.
At least they apologized
Leftist are EVIL PETTY PEOPLE they truly are... Most Democrats are just normal every day folks, but what passes for leftists, true leftists, are JUST EVIL PETTY PEOPLE, who will smile at your face as they stab you if they are in a position where they feel they are “safe” to do it.
It truly is group think/mob mentality.
They way I deal with true leftists, is simply tell them, to eff off if they try to get in my face. I really don’t care how you voted, you have a right to vote however you like, but you better believe, if you voted for Biden or Harris and stand behind your vote knowing what we now know.. you are an just a zombie as far as I am concerned, at least in terms of your political awareness.
I can respect you if you don’t like republican policies, I can respect you if you don’t like Trump... However I cannot respect anyone who tries to rationalize away putting a cancer riddled dementia puppet into the White House, and refuses to admit they made a mistake.
Trying to play any sort of moral or other superiority card, or calling Trump supporters stupid, or even Trump stupid, after you literally voted for a walking potato? Sorry, you don’t have a leg to stand on.
I know it won’t help your daughter... her “friends” are just a heard of group thinkers.. petty little people who can’t accept their own failings and just need to lash out.
I know it hurts, but honestly, your daughter needs to simply make new friends who aren’t a part of that old school insanity. She can stay in touch with them, if she wants, but really, if they are that petty, as nearly 30 year olds, that they behave that way, your daughter in the long run is going to be better off moving away from those who behave that way.
I had to walk away from a very large “friend” group after Trump was elected the first time. Known them since the 80’s. I thought it would be tough. Zero regrets to this day. Life is too short to spend it with democrats.
They aren't the old Democrats of the past, they are leftist activists with TDS and seething with hatred and supportive of leftist violence. Yep, avoid at all costs.
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