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Very interesting .Rand wanted a 90% reduction in the Debt Ceiling.
1 posted on 07/01/2025 10:30:32 AM PDT by RandFan
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"No earmarks. No handouts. Just real fiscal reform."

Maybe next year?

/sarc

2 posted on 07/01/2025 10:34:16 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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Rand’s toast. A lone wolf, not a MAGA team player.


4 posted on 07/01/2025 10:36:10 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose GOD is the LORD. Psalm 33:12)
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Rand is absolutely right but here is the problem..ANY bill that he would make it would not pass, what he wants is what most logical people want but the DC swamp is the DC swamp it wouldnt stand a chance. Heck look at Murkowski, she got what she wanted so she voted yes, she got bought off


5 posted on 07/01/2025 10:36:17 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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If Trump doesn’t pivot to addressing the deficit, and fast, Rand will be the last one laughing. And not in the distant future.


7 posted on 07/01/2025 10:38:05 AM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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Spending is so out of control. Once people get their hands on “free money”, they kick, scream and yell about losing it. And of course they have 100 reasons why it’s “unethical”, “immoral”, etc. to take the handouts away.


8 posted on 07/01/2025 10:38:23 AM PDT by um1990 (Under attack from within. We must fight on.)
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“””Throughout the Vote-a-rama, I was working all night to stop Congress from adding to our debt. “””

So he voted for a massive tax increase along with his fellow democrats instead.


11 posted on 07/01/2025 10:40:48 AM PDT by shelterguy
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Not even trying to make a deal.


17 posted on 07/01/2025 10:51:43 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The road is a dangerous place man, you can die out here...or worse. -Johnny Paycheck, 1980, Reno, NV)
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Like a petulent child, scowling with his arms crossed, little big man rand paul said he was going to vote no, unless he got what he wanted....

So, after meeting with Trump while golfing saturday, and JD today, grand standing rand still wouldn’t budge, because he thought he would be king, and get everyone else to bow down before him and cut the debt celing for his vote....

I hope rand paul just changes party and admit he sides with the democrats already.... he does more to oppose Trump, than he did against the left


18 posted on 07/01/2025 10:54:33 AM PDT by backpacker_c
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Well, thank heavens for Rand Paul. His vote now has saved America. Never mind that he voted for a 60% increase in my taxes by his so-called sensible vote.(sarc).


20 posted on 07/01/2025 10:56:10 AM PDT by Hattie
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“I met with @VP and I reiterated my offer to vote for the bill—if it included a 90% reduction in the debt ceiling.”

If the administration had accepted his offer they would have lost 10 or 15 other votes; how would that have helped advance the bill?

I guess Rand didn’t think of that.


22 posted on 07/01/2025 10:58:02 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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You know it’s bad when he has to explain himself on X. Rand was willing to let taxes skyrocket regardless of his reduction in the debt ceiling attempt. He still voted no.


23 posted on 07/01/2025 10:58:46 AM PDT by ProudDeplorable (Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty. ~ Ronald Reagan)
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And I want an Oompah Loompa NOW, Daddy!


24 posted on 07/01/2025 10:58:49 AM PDT by montag813
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So Rand wants to come back in 6 months on another bill to increase the debt ceiling and let the Dems hold us hostage to get it raised every time. $5 trillion gives Trump some breathing room and time for the tax cuts / tariffs / economic growth to work.


27 posted on 07/01/2025 11:03:16 AM PDT by imabadboy99
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Why didn’t you get your other Senators to vote for it? Nobody likes the bill but you are not going to get anything out of the marble nuthouse that will.


30 posted on 07/01/2025 11:06:06 AM PDT by bray (It's not racist to be racist against races the DNC hates.)
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Then wouldn’t they have to come back for a specific vote for that again later this year?

Wouldn’t all the preening and pork-barreling start all over again?


32 posted on 07/01/2025 11:11:13 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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OK, everybody, quiz time. Guess the year this was published and who Congressman ABC is...
What with XXX demanding increased Government spending and the proposed next Federal budget already thrown out of balance by Congress, the prospects for approval of Congressman ABC's resolution for orderly retirement of the national debt do not seem very promising.

But even in introducing the proposal the Representative has performed a public service, for he has reminded the American people of the tremendous weight of debt under which the National Government is attempting to operate and of the necessity of reducing it if ultimate bankruptcy is to be avoided.

Congressman ABC's proposal, despite the poor light in which his colleagues are likely to regard it, is eminently practical. It calls for retirement of the $285 billion debt over a period of 100 years at a rate of $2.8 billion a year.

Before other Members of the Congress dismiss the suggestion as politically undesirable and a poor substitute for vote-wheedling spending programs, they should reflect upon what the political situation may be if the debt continues to rise and repudiation becomes the only way out.

The fact that an entire century would be required under ABC's resolution to correct what war and governmental irresponsibility have brought about in a quarter of a century is a measure of the improvidence under which the national establishment has been operated.

A hundred years of paying back what is owed is a mighty long time, but we owe a mighty big debt, far beyond anything which any government ever owned before. The interest rate alone is costing the taxpayer more than $8 billion a year.

The debt would be serious enough if it had no other effect upon the economy than that of the requirement to pay the heavy interest charge. But its presence, and the constant fact of budgetary deficits in the effort to keep political wheels turning, has profoundly disturbed American economics. The debt is a supercharger of inflation, and inflation has so weakened the value of the U.S. dollar that it is worth less than half what it was worth 20 years ago.

Clearly no greater fallacy was ever uttered than that advanced when the great debt was in the early processes of creation, that it was of no moment because "we owe the money to ourselves." Debt is debt, whether it is public or private. The obligation has to be discharged sometime, in some manner-by honest repayment, by erosion of the people's savings through inflation, or by outright repudiation.

We are far from the last, but we are engaging in the second under political euphemisms, and we are dodging the first. To undertake the honest and orderly repayment of the debt would produce great economic benefits long before the debt itself were fully repaid. Confidence in Federal fiscal integrity would return in a short time and a powerful influence would be brought to bear against the inflationary processes.

What is needed now is a start toward debt retirement under a program of budgeted annual repayments, instead of a program of annual budget deficits that are added to the sum already owed. This Nation, unless it returns to financial responsibility, can destroy itself as it destroys the people's money. There is no reason, except political cowardice, for postponing such a program as Congressman ABC proposes.

I'll post the answer here later today. Post your best guess!
35 posted on 07/01/2025 11:16:42 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Diversity is our Strength” just doesn’t carry the same message as “Death from Above”)
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no earmarks? Ironic that Rand’s old man was the king of earmarks.


38 posted on 07/01/2025 11:24:44 AM PDT by Ikemeister
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Hey Mr Libertarian;

Get busy on the pile of upcoming rescission bills and otherwise shut up.


51 posted on 07/01/2025 11:52:56 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Show me a RAT, I'll show you a felon.)
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My offer to vote for the bill—if it included a 90% reduction in the debt ceiling.

He may want to call in an auditor to make a count of how much the Congress and Senate spent on fruitless spending first.


66 posted on 07/01/2025 12:27:17 PM PDT by Vaduz
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Rand, go (blank) yourself.

I am DONE with you. I will be donating to ANY primary challenger you get.

You are a NUT! Just like dad.

One note Samba. The DEBT! The sky is falling! 50 years later, The DEBT! The sky is falling!

Just wipe the debt and be done with it. Or print enough money to pay it off. Either way, clean slate, start over.


68 posted on 07/01/2025 1:36:28 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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