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1 posted on 07/01/2025 4:38:37 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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A cease fire agreement with the mullahs is worthless. The Iranian people will have to overthrow the mullahs or the terrorist attacks will not stop.


2 posted on 07/01/2025 4:38:50 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Plenty of us do get Islam.


3 posted on 07/01/2025 4:41:44 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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When Reagan countered Iran, Islam was an external enemy. Now it is an internal one. Bush embraced Islam after 9/11, a fatal error. We’ve had a Muslim president, who brought in millions of them through 3 terms. We have Muslims in Congress..and one about to control put largest city. It is an existential threat to this nation, yet we are still asleep.


5 posted on 07/01/2025 4:52:55 AM PDT by montag813
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As secular humanism replaces Christianity in the West, ignorance of the goal of Islam has grown. Islam is a patriarchal set of rules intended to keep order in a polygamist society by blaming women for male sexual aggression. It’s incompatible with feminism, but stupid is what stupid does.


6 posted on 07/01/2025 5:01:24 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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I’ve been warning people since 1971. That’s when I first went to work in the ME.


7 posted on 07/01/2025 5:03:15 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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“Getting Islam” is like getting cancer.
Only much worse.


8 posted on 07/01/2025 5:12:43 AM PDT by Da Coyote (H)
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Since 9-11-2001, Islam’s advances worldwide have been unprecedented in their history. Civilization suffers.


9 posted on 07/01/2025 5:13:11 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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Islam is not a religion. The sooner people accept that, the better off we’ll be. It has no place in western society, and should be driven out.


10 posted on 07/01/2025 5:21:06 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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Islam is a terrorist organization. What part of history and headlines don't western nations understand? Islam's followers (Muslims) believe they please God by forcing submission to so-called infidels through the sword, torture and imprisonment. Adherents to Islam should not be allowed in any civilized nation. Taqiyya has been used since Islam's inception to deceive - it seems to be working well on ignorant westerners/leaders.

Lord knows we need the emergence of Charles Martel and El Cid figures. Western nations ignoring that Islam is at war with all non-Muslims - will not have a good end. God help us!

11 posted on 07/01/2025 5:28:35 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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Trump’s call for a ceasefire is incomprehensible to me. It’s only going to allow the mullahs and the remnant IRGC to brutalize even potential internal opposition. It will strengthen their grip on the Iranian people. That is going backwards. We should have been giving the people weapons.


12 posted on 07/01/2025 5:40:25 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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“You shall know them by their fruit.”

What I see of Islam is all I need to know.


13 posted on 07/01/2025 5:41:39 AM PDT by nagant
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Good advice. The timeless warnings from Bernard Lewis still hold. Islam is a cancer with no place in the modern world.


14 posted on 07/01/2025 5:45:50 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative. )
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“The West Still Doesn’t Get Islam - We must be careful not to succumb to magical thinking.”

Just like the guy running for mayor of NYC. All the Lame Street Media ever talks about is his Socialism views. They never point out he is a Muslim that undoubtedly wants to destroy both Israel and the US in order to establish their long sought after on world Caliphate under Sharia L>aw.


15 posted on 07/01/2025 6:04:23 AM PDT by antidemoncrat (In a way ge is right as)
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cannot understand or take seriously the outsized role of Islam in Muslim cultures and politics. This failure of imagination has been a geopolitical mistake. For as Bernard Lewis explains, “In most Islamic countries, religion remains a major political factor, for most Muslim countries are still profoundly Muslim

ABSURD! It's not a "failure of imagination"; it's a failure of basic education. Islam is a THEOCRACY. Too many westerners do not understand this. For most Muslims, it is not a hobby on Sunday before brunch. They live the "faith". It is built to dominate politically! It has no place in western society, but we blithely accept it as though they are harmless Sihks or some sort of misguided little cult. The calls to prayer will be heard in all neighborhoods one day, at the rate we are going.

16 posted on 07/01/2025 6:10:17 AM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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If the U.S. were to become a Muslim country, it would represent a rejection of the principles of reason, individualism, and limited government. Such a shift would likely result in the loss of individual rights, the suppression of free thought, and the subjugation of individuals to religious authority, ultimately leading to a less free and less prosperous society


17 posted on 07/01/2025 6:15:14 AM PDT by mjp (pro-freedom & pro-wealth $)
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Moreover, as highly as we may think of Trump’s calls for peace and reconciliation, the mullahs and other devout Muslim jihadists see it not as magnanimity and respect for life, but as the infidels’ weakness and spiritual poverty that for centuries allowed Islam to dominate much of the Western world. Any breathing space bestowed on the mullahs will be exploited and used to further its still potent traditional Islamic global ambitions.


This!


18 posted on 07/01/2025 6:37:49 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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Until 1948, if you told any, ANY Mohammedan that “Islam is a religion of peace”, he would have laughed in your face and then cuf off your head.

Islam was triumphantly conquering new lands and new people. Onky whe they got on the back foot did they start the entire “religion of peace” balderdash


22 posted on 07/01/2025 7:31:04 AM PDT by Cronos
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‘There is no god named Allah’

Allah is a complete and total fabrication from the deranged mind of Mohamud.

NO ONE ever saw Allah. NO ONE ever heard Allah.

ONLY the pedophile Muhammad, IN HIS DREAMS!

Islam is the biggest SCAM perpetrated against humanity.

Believe or DIE! Convert or DIE! Oh, and by “DIE” we mean cutting off your head in public while your family watches unless they are also getting their heads lopped off.

The religion of “peace”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPiEeF5wbXU&list=PL62D290DA9B969FEE&ab_channel=podremvc

Prophet of Doom by Craig Winn.

EVERYTHING you need to know about Islam


23 posted on 07/01/2025 7:40:50 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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24% of the planet, ~2 billion people are Muslims.

A map to illustrate: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Islam_percent_population_in_each_nation_World_Map_Muslim_data_by_Pew_Research.svg

They sit on resources that are needed for an industrial, transportation heavy, society.

Pakistan is a nuclear power.

This is an issue we can’t solve with bombs. In fact, most issues are not solved with bombs.

Bombs are merely a political spectacle. They offer what appears to be a quick and easy solution for policy makers.

In America, there are a lot of folks that cheer an attack or bombing on, it makes them feel proud that their nation has this power and resolve.

The belligerent approach is especially useful for US policy makers (think Lindsey Graham) that can act with a relative high degree of impunity. We have buffer states in Asia and Europe, the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, which still provide some insulation and with our huge military and tech advantage, our massive intel apparatus and near police state, those trying to retaliate have a difficult time.

Trump did right, don’t read too much into what I’m saying, it was 5 minutes before midnight and Iran had to be stopped in acquiring a nuke.

But in the greater picture, this is NOT a problem we’re going to bomb our way out of. It’s too big in terms of land mass, number of people, nations we trade and depend on for resources...

Long term, because this is not a problem we can fix through destruction and death, the only REAL fix is what you had for many centuries, a divide where you have an Islamic and Christian world and no real mingling as was the case even pre 1950s.

It was the US that really resurrected this problem post WWII because of oil. Saudi Arabia was the first and it spread from there. Just like it was the US that at least initially nurtured and grew the monster we call China (PRC) today (industrially by moving manufacturing there).

Islam needs to exist in its area, we live in ours, and you don’t have them in our area, and we’re not in theirs.

All that has been pushed aside by modern globalization, driven by greed which pretends to be noble: The Lexus and the Olive Tree (https://www.amazon.com/Lexus-Olive-Tree-Understanding-Globalization/dp/1250013747). This book spells out the basic philosophy of how all this globalization is moral and will create prosperity and peace.

The Germans have a good way of describing it: Morgenland and Abendland, morning land and evening land, referring to where the sun rises in the East being the Muslim world, and where the sun sets in the West being the Christian world.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgenland
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abendland

Today we of course no longer use these terms, just like the entire concept of “usery” is purged from our language and you have churches with interest charging loans...

The only way we can have a relative stable and lasting peace is by creating a physical separation. Something which was the norm a long time ago.

Just like you cannot mix oil and water, you will not mix Muslims and Christians and have peace. We can make up modern junk like “Religion of Peace,” and repeat it daily until it’s coming out of your ears (post 9-11), we censor police reports and fudge the numbers so that the religious motivation is lost in official reports, we can make movies and make the Christians look like the bad guys (blame ourselves): Kingdom of Heaven (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0320661/).

None of this will change the basic foundation: you have mutually exclusive value systems.

The West had philosophical movements like the enlightenment era which influenced how governments run, the basic values of people, which Islam never had. Islam is organized solely around its religion. It defines the law and punishments (Sharia / Mufti), the boundaries of democracy (cannot violate Islamic teachings and conventions), food (Halal), dress, sexuality, education, banking and finance.

When you mix Islamic culture with Western liberal (classic meaning) society, the clash is pre-programmed.

How do you mix Muslims with Germans that like to drink beer, eat pork, lay nude in a park in the summer, are tolerant of all religions, see all equal before a secular law, believe in a science based secular education, and believe that the outcome of a democratic process should be respected and define policies even if these go against one’s personal beliefs or Christian teachings?

For example: There is no accommodating Islam with German life and culture.

You either have the Germans throw their beer down the drain and stop eating bratwurst, start making their women wear burka’s and close all the FKK beaches and spa’s, punish people for depicting the prophet Mohammed, kill those that insult him, stick kids in a Madras where they learn about Mohammed riding to the sky on his horse Barak, and only Islam being the recognized and favored religion with all others being oppressed, or you’re going to have conflict.

It’s going to get WORSE!

The Germans are now at a point where this Islamic population will continue to grow even without immigration, and as they grow, they will begin making the demands above, even if that seems ridiculous to some here and now. There is a profound difference between 1% Muslim and 10% or 30% Musim population. At 30% they take over (Lebanon / Sudan) even if still in a minority because they are highly organized and belligerent.

The only real fix - create a separation.

Of course this is still not a tenable political position, most people would reject the forced relocating of so many people. But IMHO, given another few decades (not just years, but decades) and the social friction we have, the constant flow of attacks (terrorism - reclassified as crime / Obama created that), and the occasional “big event,” like Madrid, London busses, or 9-11, it is only a matter of time until the people come around to understanding that there is no other way.

Things are the way they are for a reason. We often deny that.

When we began mixing civilizations that are truly incompatible for economic gain, we really just set in motion a learning curve, where Western civilization needs to relearn hard lessons that were known for many centuries.


25 posted on 07/01/2025 2:45:42 PM PDT by Red6
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Look at history, islam, moslems have more innocent blood on their collective hands then any other religion or group of people. They have killed hundreds of millions.

Shall we ask the Indians, the Armenians, the Yazidis, the Greeks, Hindus?

Islamic Invasion Of India: The Greatest Genocide In History https://www.sikhnet.com/news/islamic-india-biggest-holocaust-world-history

Islamic Invasion Of India: The Greatest Genocide In History - X
https://x.com/ImtiazMadmood/status/1725084755920621807?lang=en

Genocide of Yazidis by ISIL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_of_Yazidis_by_ISIL

The Biggest Holocaust in World History http://www.hinduwebsite.com/history/holocaust.asp

Armenian Genocide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide

The long read Slaves of Isis: the long walk of the Yazidi women

When Isis rounded up Yazidi women and girls in Iraq to use as slaves, the captives drew on their collective memory of past oppressions – and a powerful will to survive. By Cathy Otten https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/25/slaves-of-isis-the-long-walk-of-the-yazidi-women

Greek genocide the Pontic genocide
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_genocide

Assyrian genocide
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_genocide

The Jihad Against the Armenian, Assyrian, and Greek Christians
http://www.seyfocenter.com/english/354/

The koran in its many versions (last count 19 or so) is and has been nothing more then a get out of jail free card for the followers of islam. It’s in the koran. A manual for criminal activity, a blue print for hate, death, murder, theft and conquest and oppression.

You all should know by now the moslems, they lie, they steal, they kill, they murder, they rape, they torcher, they cannibalize, they can have sex with an animal (their favorite goat) but can’t eat it but it’s ok to sell it...It’s all in the islamic fatwas. Islamic law, (Sharia) or in the koran.

It’s been that way since it’s inception. I know there is a DEVIL because he whispers in every moslems ear.

I have been literately saying this for years and I will keep saying it.

Google knife attacks, (vehicle, truck, car attacks),* google bombings, google rape gangs, google hostages, google mass homicides, google fire bombing** and the overwhelming majority will have a moslem, or a palestinian involved as the perpetrator. We all know that islam is a death cult and criminal mafia like organization. ...do the searches and then you decide what a moslem is.

*Added May 26, 2025
** Added June 1, 2025


26 posted on 07/01/2025 4:10:31 PM PDT by BFW (loss of signal)
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