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Men, Where Have You Gone? Please Come Back. {Women wondering about the lack of real men}
New York times ^ | 20yh June 2025 | Rachel Drucker

Posted on 06/22/2025 2:02:49 AM PDT by Cronos

We have moved into an era where many men no longer seek women to impress other men or to connect across difference. They perform elsewhere. Alone. They’ve filtered us out.

I recently experienced a flicker of possibility. With James. We met on Raya, the dating app. There was something mutual from the start — wordplay, emotional precision, a tone that felt attuned. It was brief, but it caught light. I remember saying to him, “Even fleeting connections matter, when they’re mutual and lit from the inside.” I meant it.

There was just enough spark to wonder what might unfold. Enough curiosity to imagine a doorway. But he didn’t step through it. Not with a plan. Not with presence. He hovered — flirting, retreating, offering warmth but no direction.

Sexual tension and a spark aren’t reason enough to sit still and hope there’s substance behind the shimmer. So I named what I felt. I texted him clearly, with care, not simply to declare attraction but to extend a real invitation to explore what was possible. I didn’t chase. I invited, leaving the door open. If he ever wanted to cross the threshold — not just to take, but to meet — I was willing. I wanted. I still do.

He never replied. He still follows my Instagram stories — one of those small gestures of passive engagement that so many of us now mistake for closeness. It looks like interest. It feels like silence.

There are thousands of Jameses. I have known dozens. The arc varies, but the undertow is familiar.

...here’s what’s real: We never needed you to be perfect. We needed you to be with us. Not above. Not muted. Not masked. Just with.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: dating; manosphere; men; mgtow; pua; redpill; triggerwarning; women
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To: Cronos

Where is my John Wayne?
Where is my prairie song
Where is my happy ending?
Where have all the cowboys gone


161 posted on 06/22/2025 8:11:56 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
This one:
BICYCLES AND MAN PROBLEMS

"Beyond its superficial lament for missing male companionship, Rachel Drucker’s piece was a quiet, stylish elegy for the AWFLs themselves. Beneath the carefully curated pathos arose a more subtle grief: the mourning of a cohort of lonely liberal women who followed the progressive script, built their careers, kept themselves radiant and emotionally literate, and yet somehow wound up alone at the restaurant, surrounded by others just like them."

Even a more poignant subtext in my mind, is the parastic nature of those embracing the leftist mindset: that their 'victims' are supposed to accept the abuse and have an obligation to participate.

162 posted on 06/22/2025 8:13:21 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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To: Enterprise

Ding ding ding. I have tried to explain this to my more liberal friends time and time again.


163 posted on 06/22/2025 8:17:15 AM PDT by pinkandgreenmom
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To: Cronos

Men fall in love. Women fall in opportunity.


164 posted on 06/22/2025 8:17:46 AM PDT by Hammerhead
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To: Cronos

Why? For the same reason so many people walked away from the Vatican — they won’t purge themselves of the kiddie diddlers and the ones who broke their oath of celibacy to their own Gawd.

An entire group can become untouchable — like one rotten apple can spoil the basket.

How about a button — “I am not like those arseholes!”. Say it publicly.


165 posted on 06/22/2025 8:21:25 AM PDT by bobbo666
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To: Cronos

I caught a good, godly, gun totin specimen 19 years ago and if he wants to get rid of me he’ll have to kill me. 😉


166 posted on 06/22/2025 8:25:25 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: TheWriterTX
You're unusual. Most women really do not want a man who is perceived as being lower status...either less educated or earning less money....I'm convinced the obsession with a man's height is part of this. We humans are confer higher status on taller people as unearned as that is. As more women than men get college degrees and as they start to outstrip men in earnings, that presents a huge problem for many women. There just aren't that many men who are their peers in education and earnings.

Men don't care generally, and will happily marry the receptionist or the waitress, but women care about status a lot.

167 posted on 06/22/2025 8:32:39 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Jonty30
That is why men are staying away. They perceive an unfair deal by the time they are in their thirties.

When we're in our 60's it's even worse for women. We flat-out don't need them anymore. For anything.

As we get older, we men value our PEACE more than anything else. Anything, and I mean ANYTHING that disrupts our peace gets jettisoned and the first thing to go is almost always relationships with women.

I'm coming up on 63. I divorced at 55 (a divorce I didn't want, but that's another matter). I dated around casually afterwards and honestly learned that the drama of today's women is just too much. I prefer peace in my heart and soul and my desire to live the remainder of my life according to Gods will for me over everything else at this point.

Why would I want to mess that up??

168 posted on 06/22/2025 8:34:34 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: bankwalker

Woke Mind Virus.


169 posted on 06/22/2025 8:43:32 AM PDT by arthurus (| covfefe |*.)
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To: FLT-bird
.......she will marry him to get the child or two she wants and then will divorce him (since she didn't really want him in the first place)....

Happened to my nephew. She turned him against his parents, and even made him take her last name. When he came to his senses and realized what he (she) had done, is when she divorced him.

170 posted on 06/22/2025 8:47:01 AM PDT by jimtorr
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
How very stupid and nearsighted of you to assume men can fix a problem women and liberal men created. By fighting a system that is against them.

men have spoken, they won't play a rigged game.

Men arent stupid and won't be cannon fodder for your biased system. We've taken the ball and went home. So you keep crying by yourself -men are hiding.

there once was a man who almost married a woman, He really loved her, she cheated on him with some guy she met while out of town visiting her mom.. He broke up with her, spent the money he'd saved for the wedding on a Nissan gtr, bought a nice house, drank beer with his buddy's, had bbq's, went on vacations and dated many pretty women. He never got married and lived happily ever after.

171 posted on 06/22/2025 8:52:19 AM PDT by Ikeon (5,365 times,I've already told ya. YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID)
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To: Ikeon

good response to a feminist quack ...


172 posted on 06/22/2025 8:55:42 AM PDT by bankwalker (Feminists, like all Marxists, are ungrateful parasites.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz; Cronos

Re:
“Jeri Hall once said, and I am paraphrasing, “The key to a happy marriage is a woman needs to be a cook in the kitchen, a host in the living room and a slut in the bedroom.” My perfect feminist is Sarah Palin. She had her own career, was into outdoor activities, raised a family and was friendly and warm.

“Today, no modern woman (of course the exceptions are conservative women) does any of this. They b*tch and whine about their problems, meanwhile us men are thinking, “who needs this crap?””

You nailed it!


173 posted on 06/22/2025 9:12:12 AM PDT by John Galt's cousin ("A republic, if you can keep it" B. Franklin, 1787)
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To: FLT-bird

He is a “still waters run deep” kind of man, like my father. I was attracted to that. Turns out he is a lot like my father in personality, steadfastness, and intelligence.

My youngest son is a short king. He experienced premature bone maturation and stopped growing at 12 years old. He got engaged to a lovely young lady just this year.

Short kings can find love. They make the most adorable couple.


174 posted on 06/22/2025 9:25:53 AM PDT by TheWriterTX (🇺🇸✝️🙏🇮🇱)
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To: Badboo

Sorry, I can’t be their retirement plan.


175 posted on 06/22/2025 9:37:42 AM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: bankwalker

And what have the politicians that the majority of men voted for done to fix it?


176 posted on 06/22/2025 9:44:31 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Prayers for the US and President Trump)
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To: All
We have a Marxist system which confiscates the wealth of men. Don't be surprised to see many people opting out.

We have a cultural and religious void. Islam is filling it in parts of Western Europe.

USA?

The Amish and Orthodox Jews have high birth rates so they will eventually have a larger % of the population in a couple of generations.

177 posted on 06/22/2025 9:44:45 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: FLT-bird; Ikeon
Except men didn't create it. Feminazism did.

Feminism did not create the system, pandering men did. Feminism and bad women exploited it, no argument there, but pandering men who can't think beyond their next roll in the hay created it and keep it going.

Ikeon, this reply applies to your post too.

178 posted on 06/22/2025 9:45:26 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Prayers for the US and President Trump)
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To: Cronos

Rachel and other feminazis wondering where the men have gone…

Don’t give away the milk for free.


179 posted on 06/22/2025 9:49:23 AM PDT by Reddy (BO stinks)
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To: RoosterRedux

I tell the young guys I work with,
Go find a woman that hates your guts, buy her a house, then give her half your pay for the next 20 years.
I just saved you 50K in lawyer fees


180 posted on 06/22/2025 10:03:17 AM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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