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I've stayed on point but you have strayed and worse, misquoted the original assertion. Shall I play it as it was originally was stated? And no church or council or Pope or committee can change or tamper with what God made holy at creation.....long before any Jew was around.

So if there was a Pope at that time he didn't want to get his hands dirty but it was a bishop, council or Church representative. In other words - ROME. And obviously you don't really want an answer, you just want to argue. You didn't read your own literature vespa linked to about "RomesChallenge", did you? Never mind: I think I know.

Shall I play it as it was originally was stated? And no church or council or Pope

My original response was to another poster and he made the false assertion about an imaginary Pope. THIS is what he said and what I was responding to:

"Either they are in a cult where their human leaders think they can change the 10 commandments ie the papacy.."

So if it was "the papacy", which Pope did it? That was my question to his assertion. Still unanswered, by the way.

And obviously you don't really want an answer, you just want to argue. You didn't read your own literature vespa linked to about "RomesChallenge", did you? Never mind: I think I know.

I'm too old and experienced at this to get get baited into a quagmire with multiple anti-Catholics bringing up multiple topics and linking to long, mostly irrelevant sources. I've seen it all. If you know the name of the Pope who changed the Sabbath. tell us, If not, go to bed before you hurt yourself.