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Trump effect?? I believe there was a discussion here at FR a few weeks ago where our President said the ban on Pete Rose was ridiculous.....i may need to be corrected on that.
1 posted on 05/13/2025 1:16:13 PM PDT by God luvs America
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Say it ain’t so, Joe.


2 posted on 05/13/2025 1:17:13 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: God luvs America

Found the thread:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4314433/posts


3 posted on 05/13/2025 1:17:23 PM PDT by God luvs America
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One threw the world series and took a dive. Pete Rose bet FOR his own team to win. He would have LOST money by throwing the game. His bet would make him fight harder.

Not the same.


4 posted on 05/13/2025 1:20:24 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2025... RETURN OF THE JEDI...)
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Pretty safe bet for the commissioner to reinstate them since they’re dead.


5 posted on 05/13/2025 1:20:36 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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Shoeless Joe Jackson was an unsophisticated country boy who got suckered in. I drove past his memorial in Greenville SC


6 posted on 05/13/2025 1:21:24 PM PDT by dennisw (๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Truth is Hate to those who Hate the Truth. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ’ฏ)
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The 1919 World Series. During the World Series in question, Jackson had led both teams in several statistical categories and set a World Series record with 12 base hits.

obviously, he wasn’t a gambler against his own team...


8 posted on 05/13/2025 1:24:55 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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I agreed with the ban on Rose, but Shoeless Joe got painted with the same brush everyone else did. He really got a raw deal. He should be consensus HOF on the next vote.


13 posted on 05/13/2025 1:31:17 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Imagine what we'll know tomorrow.)
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What difference does it make? Rose is old and Jackson is dead.


14 posted on 05/13/2025 1:31:52 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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When I watch bits of MLB I see ads for Casinos in many, if not all MLB ballparks. In addition lots of states allow and even encourage betting on sports (I’m sure they get a cut).Maybe this is a recognition that attitudes towards sports gambling have changed over the years. Not saying it’s a good thing, but it is a thing.


16 posted on 05/13/2025 1:33:10 PM PDT by hanamizu ( )
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FINALY! MY BASEBALL HERO WILL BE IN THE HALL OF FAME!!


17 posted on 05/13/2025 1:33:15 PM PDT by cowboyusa
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It was bound to happen. Rose has too many records, can’t keep him out of the Hall forever. The ban was correct, he broke the big rule. But, lifetime is lifetime, he ain’t alive anymore.


18 posted on 05/13/2025 1:35:31 PM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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It was a lifetime ban. His life is over. So is the ban.

Sounds fair.

I feel better about Jackson, who was a victim of being โ€œnearโ€ the scandal and not being very bright.


19 posted on 05/13/2025 1:36:21 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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Put them both in the HoF. Put a note on their plaque about being banned for gambling to satisfy the purists if necessary. But they both deserve to be in, IMO.


23 posted on 05/13/2025 1:37:25 PM PDT by IndyTiger
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In Busch Stadium today there are numerous signs for some company called Bet365. The Cardinal games are shown on the FanDuel network. FanDuel, apparently, is a sports gambling company.

Of course, players, coaches, and umpires should be completely prohibited from gambling on baseball, but the league and the teams are profiting a great deal from gambling on baseball.

Seems to me just a bit hypocritical. And we are likely going to see a big gambling scandal hit one of the major sports sooner or later.

28 posted on 05/13/2025 1:39:24 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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In a historic, sweeping decision, baseball commissioner Rob Manfred on Tuesday removed Pete Rose, "Shoeless" Joe Jackson and other deceased players from Major League Baseball's permanently ineligible list.

An empty gesture.

It would have had more meaning if those players were alive to enjoy their fame. Now that they can't care, MLB reinstates them.

Good deal, if they can see themselves from the beyond.
33 posted on 05/13/2025 1:41:02 PM PDT by adorno ( )
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He was my favorite player of all time. I modeled my playing ball after him.

He was pretty much a sick, deviant, sexually predatory scumbag.


46 posted on 05/13/2025 1:49:13 PM PDT by Az Joe (uired to.)
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The first good decision by MLB in decades.


49 posted on 05/13/2025 1:54:58 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Manfred caving on gambling is like Apple or Hollywood or the NBA caving to China. Keenesaw Mountain Landis banned Jackson and the others to restore public confidence in the game. That confidence seems to no longer be a concern.

Jackson? Without the lifetime ban, he would be just like the other big names from that era. Now he has lost the thing that separated him from those others. Everybody remembers his name, but .... quick .... name one of the other 7 who were banned.

Rose should have known better but must have thought he was smarter than everybody else and would not get caught, or maybe it would just blow over. Looks like he wasn't wrong, just ahead of his time.

54 posted on 05/13/2025 2:01:51 PM PDT by Bernard (Issue an annual budget. And Issue a federal government balance sheet. Let's see what we got.)
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Considering that national bookie joints are sponsors of MLB now, it seems a bit precious to pretend they still have concerns about gamblers.


57 posted on 05/13/2025 2:07:46 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative. )
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It’s absurd this didn’t happen when Rose was still alive.


60 posted on 05/13/2025 2:18:49 PM PDT by Kazan
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