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EPA head says agency will reverse regulations that made cars automatically turn off engines when you stop 🙌
Not The Bee ^ | May 12, 2025 | Staff

Posted on 05/12/2025 7:07:32 AM PDT by Red Badger

This is the most idiotic government regulation of the last decade (and that's saying something). The technology shuts off the engine every time the vehicle stops in traffic or at a red light/stop sign.

The average driver might save $1,000 over a decade of using the vehicle if they live in an urban area with frequent stops, but Enhanced Flooded Batteries and heavy-duty starters also cost more, meaning maintenance swallows up much or all of their savings.

(They also have to put up with the psychological torture of having their car turn off and on every five seconds.)

Here's YouTuber Scotty Vilmar explaining in his unique style why this tech is maddening. 👇

New vehicles are not "required" to have such systems, but Swamp bureaucrats created massive incentives for automakers to create something that customers actually hate, all in the name of saving the planet [read: padding their wallets]. Two agencies are primarily responsible for this stupidity in the U.S.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration oversees Corporate average fuel economy (CAFE) standards.

The Environmental Protection Agency oversees greenhouse gas regulations.

The logic for these regulations goes back to the scarcity scare of the Arab oil embargo in the 1970s. Even though we have more available oil than ever, back then, politicians were worried that the stupid peasants would use up all our oil reserves in a crisis, so they aimed to impose regulations on us.

If they imposed taxes and rules on the peasantry, however, the peasants would get angry.

Instead, our ruling elite decided to make it unprofitable not to follow generic rules established by faceless bureaucracies, weaponizing the system to create products that are less efficient and unwanted by customers so that government workers could justify their paychecks.

For example, in 2007, Congress passed the Energy Independence and Security Act that tightened CAFE standards, with a target of 35 miles per gallon for the average fuel economy of passenger cars and light trucks by 2020. This forced automakers to figure out how to make vehicles that got that kind of mileage even if the market demand was not there.

A revolving door of such bills and regulations has made modern cars complex, expensive, buggy, and annoying: A living example of the absolute mess created by government intervention.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: automotive; epa; regulations; vehicleass; vehiclecutoffswitch
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To: Red Badger

Republicans need to make a much bigger deal out of, and to publicize, things like this that beneft the average Joe.


61 posted on 05/12/2025 8:02:03 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: Bobbyvotes

You are right, I forgot that. I updated analysis to include the extra repair (1 over five years), inconvenience cost, and 1.5 days of loaner/rental car cost

Suburban/rural drivers pay $800 more upfront (MSRP) and $575 more in repairs/loaner/inconvenience all for $56 savings, a net loss of $834.

Urban drivers ($164 savings) lose less, a net loss of $726.

This further amplifies the cross-subsidy argument. Only in the fevered imaginations of the EPA and Washington DC is a NET LOSS to consumers of $800 a “benefit.” They want you to pay that penance to “save the earth.”


62 posted on 05/12/2025 8:02:56 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Diversity is our Strength” just doesn’t carry the same message as “Death from Above”)
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To: Gay State Conservative

That’s why we have a Cadillac..................


63 posted on 05/12/2025 8:06:58 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

It was the dumbest idea to afflict the ICE in the history of motoring.


64 posted on 05/12/2025 8:09:20 AM PDT by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”)
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To: Red Badger

I bought a 2024 Honda Accord EX last year. Great car but it does have the stupid on/off feature. 95% of the time I turn the thing off immediately after starting the car. Every once in a while I forget and then when I come to a red light, the engine dies, so I immediately press the button and the engine comes back to life. I hate the thing.


65 posted on 05/12/2025 8:09:22 AM PDT by Signalman (When your enemy is digging himself a hole, don't take away his shovel.)
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To: BipolarBob

Same here & its a real pain in the neck. My vehicle (with this capability) had a loose battery cable that caused the car electrical system to shut down approx 10%-20% of the time where the simple solution was to pop open the hood & then shut the hood. This caused a few safety panic situations for my wife/baby, including one where she got police escort to her next destination when the car died at the red light because the engine went off & then the battery connection wasn’t happening & the police officer was half a block away & came over with his vehicle/lights and helped her. We were soon able to finally get the vehicle into a dealership and they fixed the issue. Their warranty/service program reminds me of the HMO rationing system. We still have to remember to press that button whenever we run the car or else it’ll shut off.

There are plenty of really dumb government regulations so I don’t think this one qualifies as the dumbest. But yes it’s dumb. Honest people will call this one an Anti-Safety regulation.


66 posted on 05/12/2025 8:11:00 AM PDT by Degaston
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To: Red Badger
My first car had no radio, no carpet (rubber mat), no Air Conditioner, stick shift, no power windows, steering, brakes or anything

That also describes my first car, a 1966 Type I VW that I got in 1974 for $600. Sure wish I still had it.

67 posted on 05/12/2025 8:11:45 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: Westbrook
The wear and tear on the starter motor, the engine, and other ignition components, as well as the introduction of yet another point of failure, is IDIOTIC!

Yup. Air Force did a study a looonnnnggg time ago that showed the main indicator of lifetime for any rotating machinery is the number of starts.

If you look at railroad yards, you'll see engines sitting there idling. Burning diesel fuel costs less than shutting down and starting up all the time (due to engine wear).
68 posted on 05/12/2025 8:13:44 AM PDT by BikerJoe
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To: Red Badger
My last four cars have been German...because I fell in love with diesels in 2009. But thanks to our environmentalist Maoists you can't buy diesel sedans anymore...so my my next ride will probably be Japanese.
69 posted on 05/12/2025 8:14:16 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Import The Third World,Become The Third World)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Diesel engines are still available in trucks and SUVs from major manufacturers like Chevrolet, GMC, Ram, and Ford............


70 posted on 05/12/2025 8:19:42 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Ex-Con777

“I doubt if there has been a study released on the increased emissions from this.”

There has been a thorough study completed that supports this regulation. The study has been performed by highly paid diverse government employees with blue chip healthcare and retirement plans or funded by a grant to a university that has a diverse workforce and supported by tax free endowments and student tuition funded by government guaranteed loans. The highly paid diverse judges, with blue chip healthcare and retirement plans, will rule in favor of the experts and MSM will say we need to trust the science. Why do you have doubts?


71 posted on 05/12/2025 8:22:28 AM PDT by alternatives?
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To: woodbutcher1963

There is a company that makes a wiring harness that disables ASS on startup. No reprogramming the computer and you can remove if needed.

https://www.autostopeliminator.com


72 posted on 05/12/2025 8:30:54 AM PDT by sloanrb
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To: Red Badger
The cultists who mandated, designed, and implemented the auto-shutoff systems need to have the same installed in their house.

Every time they don't use something for 15 seconds, it shuts off and requires them to restart it. EVERYTHING - computer, hot water heater, television, lights, clocks, etc. - because saving coal or oil at the powerplant is the same intention as saving it in your car's gas tank.

73 posted on 05/12/2025 8:32:38 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: Red Badger

Fantastic.


74 posted on 05/12/2025 8:39:02 AM PDT by mykroar ("It's Not the Nature of the Evidence; It's the Seriousness of the Charge." - El Rushbo)
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To: sloanrb

Thanks for the thought.

NO HONDA listed/available.


75 posted on 05/12/2025 8:56:00 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: BipolarBob

Mine has an ‘option off’ in the extensive Control panel.


76 posted on 05/12/2025 8:59:19 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: BipolarBob
Yes,my sister in laws car has this feature too. I never knew this existed till about 3 weeks ago. What a stupid,dangerous idea!
77 posted on 05/12/2025 8:59:39 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (Don't worry,pray.)
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To: Mouton

Not to mention that the People’s republic of California wants to charge drivers for mileage now. Instead of just charging EVs who do not pay gasoline taxes.


78 posted on 05/12/2025 9:03:00 AM PDT by dvan (Send Them Home!Napolatono)
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To: Red Badger

The EPA is also behind the new engine designs that cause the engines to blow up at very large mileage.


79 posted on 05/12/2025 9:11:38 AM PDT by Revel
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To: Red Badger

If the AC on stops it, then there is likely a fuse you can remove (or add) to permanently stop it.


80 posted on 05/12/2025 9:22:44 AM PDT by montag813
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