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Dumb Things Everyone Overlooks In Dune
www.sciencing.com ^ | May 04, 2025 | Mina Nakatani

Posted on 05/11/2025 5:58:56 PM PDT by Red Badger

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To: A Navy Vet

There are more books in the series than just ‘Dune’................


41 posted on 05/11/2025 8:12:55 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Blish.................


42 posted on 05/11/2025 8:13:59 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

That’s right 👍


43 posted on 05/11/2025 8:20:16 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One w!as a cylindrical object)
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To: Red Badger

Dune has way more problems than not jibing with reality. It’s the parallel of the Islamic religion. That is the thing I most object to. Th at and the girl at the end of part two riding off on a worm. Only men ride worms in the world of Dune. Plus it’s that girl who is named Zendaya who is in everything. I didn’t really like her as Mary Jane Watson.


44 posted on 05/11/2025 9:18:12 PM PDT by webheart (Why not write out because instead of saying b/c and with instead of w/ ?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Exactly.


45 posted on 05/11/2025 9:30:27 PM PDT by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: Red Badger
There is a useful distinction between hard and soft science fiction. Hard science fiction features accurate or at least plausible science. The movie "I, Robot" is of that type, as are "Blade Runner" and "2001." They feature stories and characters constrained by science as we know it projected into the future.

In contrast, soft science fiction takes a more speculative leap to stories with technology, science, and life forms that are beyond or contradict contemporary science. The result is a tendency toward wilder and more inventive story-telling that is nevertheless constrained and animated by the terms of an imagined world with scientific and technological constraints of its own.

"Dune" is unusual in combining diplomatic, political, tribal, and military conflicts involving a dry, sandy planet that is barely hospitable to human life. The narrative structure combines first person monologues within a third person narrative. The result in both written and movie forms is a high demand on the understanding of readers and audiences. The reward is an exploration of human nature in extreme and imaginative circumstances.

I once heard a radio interview with Frank Herbert, the author of Dune. A caller described how the book had saved her life after a criminal attack had left her badly wounded, bleeding, in extreme pain, and dying. In distress, the caller recalled the saying from Dune that "fear is the mind killer," put aside her fear of death, and thought through and carried out a plan that got help and saved her life.

In the end, the point of hard and soft science fiction is always to illuminate human nature and inspire us in some fashion. Genre fiction it may be, but it sometimes tells us a great deal about ourselves.

46 posted on 05/11/2025 11:37:51 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Red Badger
There was no shortage of water on Dune. The Fremen had billions of gallons sequestered in Quanats under ground

That's a shortage.

The Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis Reservoir in Central Park has a capacity of more than 1 billion US gallons.

If that was all the available / accessible water on Earth (even if we had a population of only, say, 50 million)...

Regards,

47 posted on 05/12/2025 12:42:17 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Red Badger

I have always enjoyed SF, but i consider both stories of Dune to be, what’s the word?, stupid!


48 posted on 05/12/2025 1:27:48 AM PDT by Highest Authority (DemonRats are pure EVIL)
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.

It is dated...
But so is Jane Eyre snd Little House on the Prarie.

Teaching how people thought and acted in history is important.

I reread it recently. It holds.

Surprisingly reread the foundation trilogy recently and it didn’t hold for me.

HOMESCHOOL DYSTOPISN READING SERIES 8 thru 12th

LORD OF THE FLIES
ANIMAL FARM
1984
BRAVE NEW WORLD
EARTH ABIDES
And
Slavomir Rawicz
The Long Walk: The True Story Of A Trek To Freedom


49 posted on 05/12/2025 3:40:20 AM PDT by Chickensoup
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To: ifinnegan

I will try to find that. I did not know.

His book gave my spouse and me some interesting conversations around the woodstove 50 years ago


50 posted on 05/12/2025 3:44:55 AM PDT by Chickensoup
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To: Red Badger

Should have used the force.


51 posted on 05/12/2025 3:45:33 AM PDT by Daveinyork ( )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Has no idea that this existed.

Do I watch someone’s adaptation of a novel that helped form me?

Little Women raised me. I have never been able to watch the film adaptations.


52 posted on 05/12/2025 3:52:27 AM PDT by Chickensoup
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To: HartleyMBaldwin
FFS, Mina. Dune is science fiction. Fiction, as in made-up stuff. It doesn’t claim to be a documentary.

I second your comment. Furthermore, in many examples, she says it's not possible with present technology. To that I say.... DUH

53 posted on 05/12/2025 3:55:39 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I'm so on fire that I feel the need to stop, drop, and roll!)
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To: Paal Gulli
If you can produce infinite power, there should be no shortages of anything, least of all water, in the entire universe.

Correct. At that point you can just create your own atoms and assemble the molecules right up to their useful macro forms at that point. Like the replicators on Star Trek Next Generation, but not like the replicators on Stargate 1 (those ones are jerks).

54 posted on 05/12/2025 3:59:13 AM PDT by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”)
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To: ifinnegan

He has several other books too! Did not know. Thanks!


55 posted on 05/12/2025 4:00:45 AM PDT by Chickensoup
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To: Rockingham

Thank you.

That helps explain books in my life


56 posted on 05/12/2025 4:03:57 AM PDT by Chickensoup
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To: webheart
Only men ride worms in the world of Dune.

Not true. Every Fremen, male or female, can summon worms and ride them as far as the worm can go until it tires out. Every Fremen is a fighter, from the age of two and up...........................

57 posted on 05/12/2025 4:10:35 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

Being Sci-Fi fiction aside, I was totally triggered that a civilization that had figured out how to use anti-gravity technology for their ore haulers would decide to use the massively clumsy and inefficient ornithopters for personal transportation. Dumb ...

I too preferred the first version.


58 posted on 05/12/2025 4:29:42 AM PDT by ByteMercenary (Election 2020 was stolen by mail-in voting.)
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To: alexander_busek

It was stored in order to keep it away from the worms to which it was a deadly poison, and the worm’s juvenile form, ‘sand trout’, which would attempt to encase the water with their own bodies and seal it off. The Fremen used predatory fish, like piranhas, to kill the sand trout. Fremen children would hunt sand trout for fun, and add their water to the tribes horde.

Dune was once a lush tropical planet with oceans, lakes and rivers, before the introduction of the Sand Worms from another planet................


59 posted on 05/12/2025 4:33:00 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Chickensoup

Yes. He’s really interesting.


60 posted on 05/12/2025 4:55:12 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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