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1 posted on 05/07/2025 1:32:43 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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Gold and silver seem poised to go much higher

Who says? They are pretty high now historically

2 posted on 05/07/2025 1:34:02 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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I wanted a self-directed IRA to finance my house flipping. Advisors said no.


3 posted on 05/07/2025 1:34:55 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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The only way I’d invest in PM’s is physical PM’s. i.e. something I put in a safe deposit box. I think the rest is fake.


5 posted on 05/07/2025 1:38:13 PM PDT by cuban leaf (2024 is going to be one for the history books, like 1939. And 2025 will be more so, like 1940-1945.)
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Sprott Physical Trust is actually trading at a discount to actual holdings.
9 posted on 05/07/2025 1:42:03 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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Precious metals as part of a portfolio is cool.

I wouldn’t put all eggs in one basket whether it be stock index funds, bond funds/bonds, cash and gold or whatever.

You can set up an IRA and have diversified holdings within that IRA.

Dollar cost average 10-20% of your salary into an IRA, 401K or investment account, leave it alone and don’t touch it for 30 years or more. Voila. Real simple.


11 posted on 05/07/2025 1:43:37 PM PDT by plain talk
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The fees are high in a precious metals IRA. I wouldn't do them.

You can outpace inflation by having your IRA spread out into many mutual funds of many asset classes (diversify). I have mine in 40+ mutual funds, with 3/4ths of them in equity mutual funds (stocks) and the other 1/4th in mutual funds of bonds, treasuries, and money markets.

Then when it's time to withdraw on one to live off of (either 4% of your portfolio annually, or 1/3rd of 1% monthly) I withdraw from whichever funds have the highest balance (sell high). And at the end of the year, figure out how much your taxable income will be after deductions (your AGI) and how much more taxable income you can have without going into a higher tax bracket. That's the amount you convert some of your IRA money into a Roth IRA (again, spread out across many asset classes). From then on that amount grows tax free.

12 posted on 05/07/2025 1:45:06 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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Are you sure you are okay with only a derivative of your money? Why not have actual real money. And thing other than physical in your hand silver or gold is not real money, just a derivative.


14 posted on 05/07/2025 1:45:46 PM PDT by C210N (Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.)
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Look for low expense ratio options, and be very careful putting too much into any one investment.
TickerMetalStructureExpense ratio
IAUMGoldPhysically-backed trust0.09 %
GLDMGoldPhysically-backed trust0.10 %
SIVRSilverPhysically-backed trust0.30 %

19 posted on 05/07/2025 1:52:52 PM PDT by Wayne07
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How about a gold mining ETF like GDX?


22 posted on 05/07/2025 1:59:45 PM PDT by posterchild
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Buy GLD and SLV etfs in your investment portfolio. No need to do PM IRA. Can also buy the miner ETFs or individual companies. ABX, FCX, etc.


24 posted on 05/07/2025 2:02:56 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (Inter arma enim silent leges! - Cicero )
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Gold's going down because Trump and Elon and a bunch of Trump'd other people are overcoming Biden's stupid vile choices and the corruption of his Biden's minions.

27 posted on 05/07/2025 2:07:24 PM PDT by GOPJ (Judicial robes aren't invisibility cloaks that allows judges to engage in criminal acts. J Turley)
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Everything in balance/moderation

It can/should be part of any balanced portfolio, but as with any asset class, not an overwhelming majority.

Like other asset classes, unless you are an industry insider who knows the timing, its better to dollar cost average into a position.

In general, look for things now that, on a long-term basis, are relatively cheap to other assets.

For example, Platinum is at 50 year lows vs. the price of gold. Besides the Covid 2020 collapse, the same is true for oil. Maybe start there, instead of gold.


28 posted on 05/07/2025 2:07:53 PM PDT by PGR88
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“””but the fees seem high for precious metal IRAs.”””


If you concerned about fees, then buy a few shares of GLD or SLV to get your feet wet.

Unless you are planning to buy millions of dollars of gold and silver, I would not worry about buying a few shares of GLD or SLV ETF’s.


31 posted on 05/07/2025 2:10:16 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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You may encounter higher tax rates (28% vs 20%, for example) for investments based on precious metals, if I remember a recent article correctly...


38 posted on 05/07/2025 2:27:26 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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Not a fan of precious metals... I think it’s way over valued.


39 posted on 05/07/2025 2:28:15 PM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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Go to YouTube and look for Lynette Zang. She will answer any question you have regarding gold and silver without you even having to ask it.


40 posted on 05/07/2025 2:34:29 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (America needs a Conservative DICTATOR if it hopes to survive. )
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Most custodians of conventional IRAs won’t allow you to own physical gold in the tax-advantaged account, but it’s a whole different story with a self-directed IRA (SDIRA). As the name implies, SDIRAs give you more control over what type of assets you can own, including real estate and precious metals. One potential drawback with gold IRAs is the initial purchase requirement fairly high.


44 posted on 05/07/2025 2:52:07 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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I wouldn’t have the slightest idea and wouldn’t listen to anyone claiming to. IRAs are heavily controlled by the govt, that’s enough.


45 posted on 05/07/2025 2:57:29 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The road is a dangerous place man, you can die out here...or worse. -Johnny Paycheck, 1980, Reno, NV)
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Kirk Elliott talks about this, has been interviewed on the podcast And We Know.

I’ve considered looking into what he offers.

https://www.kepm.com/


46 posted on 05/07/2025 3:23:46 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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An IRA is a retirement account. When you are young, it can be more speculative than as you get closer to retirement age.

However, it should always have some diversity to it. That is because different sectors of the economy and the value of the stocks that serve those sectors go up and down. What you want to have in retirement accounts are a number of different stocks, ETF sectors, or mutual funds, including foreign and bond funds.

Gold is OK, but is not without costs if you want to sell it at some future point in time. It as all commodities should not be a principle component of your retirement account.


49 posted on 05/07/2025 4:13:26 PM PDT by Robert357
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