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When Did Rock & Roll Die? A Statistical Analysis
StatSignificant ^ | June 26, 2024 | Daniel Parris

Posted on 05/04/2025 7:01:31 PM PDT by DoodleBob

… By its peak in 1983, rock music dominated radio play and accounted for over 60% of the Billboard Top 100.

… In many ways, the rise of pop, rap, and hip-hop can be seen as a market correction to mainstream rock's lack of cultural innovation, aesthetic appeal, and musical experimentation.

In the years leading up to the stylistic shifts of the 1980s, there was a significant disconnect between critical acclaim and consumer music preferences. However, when rock began its descent from the mainstream in the mid-1980s, the association between critic and consumer music preference rebounded and stayed aligned for the next 30 years.

Researchers attribute the critical-commercial disconnect of the late 1970s and early 1980s to widespread "rockism," an era of rock hubris that assumed perpetual relevance and dismissed other genres. During this period, critics maligned the stale output of hair metal bands and the shallow theatrics of acts like Def Leppard, Twisted Sister, and Kiss. The rise of pop, hip-hop, and rap realigned critical and commercial preferences, infusing mainstream music with new-fangled stylings and technical innovation.

The grunge movement of the 1990s, characterized by its low-fi production and anti-capitalist sentiments, is often seen as rock's last gasp at mainstream relevance. Yet there was an inherent contradiction to grunge's ascension. Artists like Nirvana's Kurt Cobain and Pearl Jam's Eddie Vedder struggled with their newfound success, which directly conflicted with their rejection of commercialism and rock stardom. The grunge movement effectively ended with Kurt Cobain's 1994 suicide, marking the decline of this ascendent subgenre and rock's best chance at a mainstream comeback.

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TOPICS: History; Music/Entertainment; Society
KEYWORDS: fakenews; ganstarap; ihearthiphop; music; rock; whenthebeatlescame
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To: tet68

True.


141 posted on 05/05/2025 12:09:21 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Stones Sticky Fingers


142 posted on 05/05/2025 12:33:53 AM PDT by albie (U)
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To: Paal Gulli
The last link nails it. Very well said. As an Indy musician who writes, performs and publishes his own music I agree with everything Beato says in that vid. 100,000 "songs" dropped across all the streaming platforms every day now and the vast majority of them are sterile, machine-made, cookie-cutter, boring crap.

The good news is that there are still a lot of folks who actually create their own music by writing their own stuff and actually playing an instrument or two.

A few months back, one of my musician friends, a classical pianist who, crazily enough, writes EDM music, sent me a message saying, "We musicians are finished! Machines can now do everything." He came over to my studio that night and showed me sites where you simply type in a song subject, style etc. and bingo-in a minute your song is finished. Didn't sound bad, either. It's wild. But within an hour of us screwing around with it it became totally boring.

Actually writing, performing and producing music the tradtional way is so much more creative, challenging, maddening - and fun. But it takes focus, patience and the ability to stick with something for more than five minutes, three attributes that I've noticed are sorely lacking today among most young musicians and musician wannabees.

143 posted on 05/05/2025 1:22:48 AM PDT by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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To: DoodleBob

for some people, rock didnt die... we just stay listening to what we like...

https://youtu.be/Cs0xsC928p8


144 posted on 05/05/2025 1:56:27 AM PDT by sit-rep (START DEMANDING INDICTMENTS NOW!!!!!)
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To: SpaceBar

“After that, it became louder, darker, more explicitly drug influenced, and monotonous.”
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My neighbors—in two different states—play loud music that sounds like hurdy-gurdy.


145 posted on 05/05/2025 2:15:57 AM PDT by Does so ("The guilty flee when no man pursueth"....🇺🇦...Dem☭¢rat... ∅ ™ ¿ ¡ ☞≣ ½¼)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
"Any arguments? ;)"

Allman Brothers band "Live at Fillmore East"

Blues, Jazz, Rock, and more blues.

146 posted on 05/05/2025 2:36:12 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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To: DoodleBob

cRap and Hippity Hop are not music.


147 posted on 05/05/2025 2:39:38 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Kamala defines herself in just 4 words..."Nothing comes to mind.")
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To: DoodleBob
The CRAP RAP!! Can you imagine being 60 years old and still liking the CRAP RAP??

HipHop and CRAP RAP RUINED MODERN MUSIC!

148 posted on 05/05/2025 2:54:46 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience..)
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To: DoodleBob

Bflr


149 posted on 05/05/2025 3:04:28 AM PDT by colinhester
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To: lee martell

Got turned onto that by Wendy (Walter) Carlos “Switched On Bach” that I picked up after I had the “Clockwork Orange” soundtrack.

My favorite video version (by the Freiburger Barockorchester):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLj_gMBqHX8


150 posted on 05/05/2025 3:06:04 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America.)
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To: DoodleBob

After Leon Russell perfected Rock and Roll in the late 1960’s, less talented musicians turned to Rock.


151 posted on 05/05/2025 3:07:58 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.

I don’t think that Don Van Vliet had rock and roll in mind when he and the Magic Band made that one. It’s probably the most amusing record I’ve ever heard.


152 posted on 05/05/2025 3:08:32 AM PDT by equaviator (If 60 is the new 40 then 35 must be the new 15.)
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To: tet68

“Hip hop and rap are not music.”

Neither is jazz — the “musical” answer to Tourette Syndrome. A lot of unstructured noise.


153 posted on 05/05/2025 3:13:27 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (It's hard not to celebrate the fall of bad people. - Bongino)
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To: Paal Gulli

“The Real Reason Why Music Is Getting Worse”

I wonder if the upswing in hip hop and rap is corresponds in any with with the dumbing-down and lowering standards in the American education system.

It would be interesting to see a chart juxtaposing those two factors.


154 posted on 05/05/2025 3:17:03 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (It's hard not to celebrate the fall of bad people. - Bongino)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Pink Floyd is Rock, not Rock & Roll. Johnny Rivers is Rock & Roll.


155 posted on 05/05/2025 3:18:36 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

“Rock’n Roll and ‘rock’ are two distinctly different things.”

Right. I hate rock, but love rock ‘n’ roll. They’re not even close to the same.

I listen to some podcasters who have children in their late and early teens, and it seems that they’re discovering that “oldies” are better than current dross.


156 posted on 05/05/2025 3:22:34 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (It's hard not to celebrate the fall of bad people. - Bongino)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

AC/DC Back in Black


157 posted on 05/05/2025 3:29:06 AM PDT by bort
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To: Political Junkie Too

That’s a really interesting point. I correlated it with the educational dumbing-down of America. But the loosening of morals and ethics of parents, and passing that down to the next generation, seems huge.

Maybe a root cause analysis would reveal that taking God and prayer out of schools was the beginning of the slippery slope. As you said, no longer important were “themes of dating and love, heartache and loss, work and unemployment, self-awareness and self-improvement, and foregiveness and redemption”.


158 posted on 05/05/2025 3:29:37 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (It's hard not to celebrate the fall of bad people. - Bongino)
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To: DoodleBob

Review,


159 posted on 05/05/2025 3:31:02 AM PDT by sauropod (Make sure Satan has to climb over a lot of Scripture to get to you. John MacArthur Ne supra crepidam)
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Bands and acts have their hits... fmFrom the Allman brothers to ZZ Top and everything in between. Might even be 2 or 3 albums in a larger catalog that are good.

Many people have said that if it sounds good - It is good, and I agree with that. I have lots of favorites. Stylistically they can be very different.


160 posted on 05/05/2025 3:31:04 AM PDT by Clutch Martin ("The dawn cracks hard like a bull whip and it ain't taking no lip from the night before" Tom Waits)
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