The Dreadful Deal The U.S. Is Pushing On Ukraine Is Dire News For The Free World

Youtube.com ^ | 04/25/2025 | Steve Forbes Video

[Pol-92064]

Steve Forbes explains why the Trump Administration's proposed peace plan to end the Russia-Ukraine War would constitute a big win for Vladimir Putin and only make the world more dangerous

[dfwgator]

What is this “Free World” they are talking about?

[Navy Patriot]

Sounds good to me.

[Navy Patriot]

What is this “Free World” they are talking about?

Steve Forbes often uses too many letter Rs in his banter.

Steve is quite interested in and supportive of the Fee World, as opposed to the Free World.

I suspect his excessive use of Rs is deliberate.

[CarolinaReaganFan]

He sounds like a neocon warmonger in this.
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Getting Putin to agree to abandon his annexed but not captured territory is a major breakthrough.
This is the only reasonable solution to freeze the lines where they are to become the new borders....This proxy war on Russia needs to end.This is the best that Z could ever get.Crimea has been part of Russia since 1783 , not an issue.Like Korea neither side must recognize the other- just agree to stop fighting and no further military action.. If Z won’t work with this it will be time to turn off the money and wash our hands of this globo homo grifter.

[LadyDoc]

if it is so dire, why doesn’t Europe step in?

[USA-FRANCE]

“Ukraine is not a Republic or a Democracy, it is a dictatorship with Zelensky as dictator for life.”

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

And Russia is a wonderful democratic Scandinavian-like democracy, huh?
Do you want me to send you a list of all the hardcore dictatorship points going on there? No wonder Russia’s ONLY allies are IRAN, NORTH KORA and CHINA!

If a citizen say the word *war* in Russia right now he gets 5 years in prison...
Did you know that?

And Russia is also way more corrupt than Ukraine on the World Wide Corruption Index :
Sweden: 8 (excellent!)
France: 25 (good)
USA: 28 (good)
Ukraine 105 (not good yet but getting better every year)
Russia: 154 (a disaster, even worse than Honduras and Iran!, it worsens every year)

https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2024

Thus, Russia being way worse when it comes to the level of dictatorship and corruption... how come you so conveniently forgot to mention Russia... ?

I presume you are living in Russia? Kremlin maybe?

[Carry_Okie]

Just for the record it was Clinton that was involved in that in 1994. Bush I served from 1989-1992.

Memory hadn't failed me. Clinton concluded what Bush had started:

At a Dec. 21, 1991 conference at Alma-Ata, the Soviet Republics of Belarus, Kazakhstan, and Ukraine pledged to return all Soviet tactical nuclear weapons on their territories to Russia by July 1, 1992. All three states met their commitments despite the Soviet Union’s breakup four days after these pledges were made. Otherwise, Russia has released little information substantiating its PNI activities. At the May 2005 nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty Review Conference, Moscow announced that all Russian tactical nuclear weapons “are now deployed only within the national territory and are concentrated at central storage facilities of the Ministry of Defense.” In 2007, Colonel-General Vladimir Verkhovtsev remarked, “Russia particularly committed itself to removing tactical nuclear weapons from the ground forces completely. Those weapons were also cut by 50 percent in the Air Force, by 60 percent in missile defense troops and by 30 percent on nuclear submarines of the Russian Navy,” the general said.

[Gaffer]

Had it been written in the header that this (from a Steve Forbes podcast) I could have saved a bunch of my time.}

[Robert DeLong]

I stand corrected o tat point then, but none of those nuclear weapons were launchable from the nations that were housing them without the Soviet Union’s or later, Russia’s authorization for them to be launched. By authorization, I mean direct actions taken that open up the ability to launch via actions, not just verbale approval. 🙂👍

[dforest]

What free world? UK? Nope, not anymore. EU, nope, not them either, US? only trying to stay free because Trump was elected.

So WTF are you talking about?

Can we all just stop pretending and start talking the truth?

Ukraine is not fighting for freedom, they are fighting a proxy war for NATO

[Carry_Okie]

That's fine. Your post just didn't sit well with my memory, and resulting propensity to finger the neocon RINOs when appropriate. As is obvious from the historical record, this disaster in Ukraine was a combined effort spanning 35 years.

Sometimes I wonder if this nation's people are due a comeuppance for the perfidy of their "leaders." "Fat, dumb, and happy" comes to mind, only now not so happy.

[Robert DeLong]

Your post just didn't sit well with my memory, and resulting propensity to finger the neocon RINOs when appropriate.

Good, the RINOs need to be outed for the traitors that they are. I have no love lost for the Buses who occupied the White House. who operated more like Obama, which is why neither said anything negative about Barry Soetoro that Bush Senior personally knew.

Keep up the good work. 🙂👍

[Carry_Okie]

Keep up the good work.

LOL, if you only knew...

[Svartalfiar]

Whatever peace deal is made won’t matter. If Russia takes any territory, they’ll get rebel guerilla strikes supported by the Ukrainian government. If Russia doesn’t take all of Ukraine now, they’ll be back for the rest in a couple years..