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Peter Lovesey, Novelist Who Pioneered the Historical Whodunnit With His Victorian Detective Cribb
Yahoo! News ^ | 4/11

Posted on 04/16/2025 12:44:03 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Peter Lovesey, the crime novelist, who has died aged 88, was a pioneer of the period whodunnit, as the creator of the Victorian sleuth Sergeant Cribb.

Although there had been a few one-off historical mysteries before the advent of Lovesey in the 1970s (including Agatha Christie’s Death Comes as the End, set in Thebes in 2000 BC), he was generally regarded as the first author to set a successful detective series in the past.

Sergeant Cribb paved the way for other period detectives such as Ellis Peters’s Brother Cadfael, Lindsey Davis’s Falco and C J Sansom’s Shardlake. The sub-genre now flourishes to the extent that the Crime Writers’ Association (CWA) awards an annual Historical Dagger for the best period mystery. Lovesey showed that it was possible to combine a well-plotted mystery with a pungent evocation of the past. The Cribb novels focused on various facets of late Victorian life: the music hall (Abracadaver), the underground bare-knuckle boxing circuit (The Detective Wore Silk Drawers), Irish nationalist terrorism (Invitation to a Dynamite Party), the boating craze sparked by Jerome K Jerome’s bestselling Three Men in a Boat (Swing, Swing Together).

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1 posted on 04/16/2025 12:44:03 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Rest In Peace, Peter.


2 posted on 04/16/2025 12:44:45 PM PDT by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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the first author to set a successful detective series

What about Arthur Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes?

3 posted on 04/16/2025 12:48:33 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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Sherlock Holmes was set in Doyle’s contemporary London.


4 posted on 04/16/2025 12:56:12 PM PDT by Fai Mao ( All Democrats need to go to prison.)
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To: Jim W N
the first author to set a successful detective series
What about Arthur Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes?

the first author to set a successful detective series in the past .

The Sherlock Holmes stories were set during Arthur Conan Doyle's lifetime.

5 posted on 04/16/2025 12:59:12 PM PDT by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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To: Fai Mao

Wasn’t Sherlock Holmes a successful detective series?


6 posted on 04/16/2025 1:00:08 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Gil4

Past or present, what does that matter? Isn’t that splitting hairs a bit?


7 posted on 04/16/2025 1:01:57 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: nickcarraway
Granada Tv made 13 episodes of Cribb (Sgt Cribb in North America )

Available on YouTube

8 posted on 04/16/2025 1:03:16 PM PDT by OldHarbor
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To: nickcarraway
Lovesey showed that it was possible to combine a well-plotted mystery with a pungent evocation of the past.

John Dickson Carr was doing that decades earlier, though Carr didn't use a recurring detective character in his historical mysteries, so in that sense they weren't a series.

9 posted on 04/16/2025 1:03:43 PM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: Jim W N

Yes. But not set in the past when written


10 posted on 04/16/2025 1:15:27 PM PDT by Fai Mao ( All Democrats need to go to prison.)
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Past or present, what does that matter? Isn’t that splitting hairs a bit?


11 posted on 04/16/2025 1:16:28 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: nickcarraway

Hint: It’s always the butler.


12 posted on 04/16/2025 1:18:42 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: Jim W N
No.
13 posted on 04/16/2025 1:43:07 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Why not?


14 posted on 04/16/2025 1:44:52 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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Because writing a historical novel and writing a contemporary is two different things.

A lot more research goes into the historical because you have to get certain details right. And some of those details can trip you up and get you lots of nasty letters from readers who will tell you that the detective could not have used his flashlight in the way you said because, while flashlights were around they only gave one flash of light that lasted for seconds. So his spending several minutes looking around with his flashlight was not possible.

You make enough of those kinds of mistakes and you will never write a published series.

15 posted on 04/16/2025 1:57:13 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: Jim W N

Mystery works set in the past are a subgenre.


16 posted on 04/16/2025 2:14:12 PM PDT by Fai Mao ( All Democrats need to go to prison.)
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To: nickcarraway

I like Stuart M Kaminsky’s Toby Peters detective series. Every one set in the 1940’s with a famous celebrity of the day, Errol Flynn, Mae West, etc


17 posted on 04/16/2025 2:55:26 PM PDT by packrat35 (Pureblood! No clot shot for me!)
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

I like Dickerson Carr or his 3 other pen names


18 posted on 04/16/2025 3:12:30 PM PDT by airedale ( )
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To: packrat35

He’s one of my favorites. I really like his books. I get a kick out of Sheldon Minck and Mrs Plout


19 posted on 04/16/2025 3:58:54 PM PDT by airedale ( )
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To: nickcarraway

I have been watching the new Inspector Dalgliesh series. It’s pretty good and not as politically correct as some other Britcop shows. P.D. James gimmick was that Dalgliesh was not only a policeman but also a published poet. I wonder why that one’s not more widely used. Kojack, National Book Award winner. Magnum, M.F.A Writing Instructor. Mike Hammer, accomplished sonneteer.


20 posted on 04/16/2025 4:43:00 PM PDT by x
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