Posted on 03/31/2025 8:04:09 AM PDT by hardspunned
Patel and Bongino both fail to understand the severity of the compromise underneath them. Hence the "95% honorable" quote by Patel recently (convo with Gowdy).
The core issue is that institutional corruption is the status of the FBI. That is challenging to deal with and simply cannot be addressed (in any reasonable timeframe, or effect) from the top of the leadership pyramid.
The various downstream field offices of the same institution (there are hundreds) will keep Patel/Bongino flush with busy work and positive investigative outcomes for them to announce on television. [see VA recently] That approach purposefully satiates a reviewing audience yet leaves the process under them without oversight.
Corrupt FBI officials continue operations as needed (influence selling, evidence burying, pay-to-play investigative outcomes, DC monitoring, money laundering, trafficking, drugs and generally willful blindness to their outside group partners) and simultaneously push specific attention-grabbing info up the ladder toward leadership offices in DC.
(Excerpt) Read more at x.com ...
Google the story. Some examples are in a list of arrests.
ok ya got me!!
now, lets focus on something that is harder to do than rounding up perverts... they have done that no matter who is president. how about all the corruption being exposed? are you another one who says they need time for “rock solid” evidence gathering??
I'm reposting my idea from March 5, 2018 (reformatted for easier reading):
A decentralized national investigative structure, overseen by the states but controlled by the commander-in-chief on a case-by-case basis, may be the best way to restore confidence that such an agency is not corrupted by national party bloc interests.
As I was reading this article (As D.C. Corruption Mounts, Here's How The American People Can Get Justice), I was beginning to think of a solution that was close to where the author ended up.What if the FBI were disbanded as a federal agency, and replaced by a different organization that was populated by the states themselves?
- Each state would delegate a number of investigators to serve at the pleasure of their home state, and this body would become a decentralized federal investigative bureau, managed by the states.
- As is with the militia, the Constitution provides for calling up the militias for national service, but the officers are selected by the states.
- It isn't a stretch to declare that state militias have investigators as a component of a military police, perhaps made up of local police department detectives who are also in the state national guard reserves.
- Use the militia clause in the Constitution to call up the state militias' investigative arms for federal service, with state appointed officers.
- Each state can create a branch of their militia as MPs, or detectives. These people would report to militia officers appointed within each state, and then these militia branches (officers and detectives) would be called up at the request the Commander-In-Chief and approval by Congress (Article I Section 8: "to provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions,") to serve a national priority such as investigating a particular federal crime, under the authority of state officers, not federal bureaucrats.
- The state officers will report directly to the Commander-In-Chief (Article II Section II: "The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States").
- Once the investigation is complete, the investigating team is released back to the states.
- If a crime occurred in one state, then the militia police from another state can be called up to investigate.
- Several investigations across several states can operate in parallel, if needed.
Root cause analyses looks for systemic causes of failures, not behavioral causes.
- Part of that review is identifying the protective systems that were in place to prevent what happened from happening, and to brainstorm additional protective systems to catch whatever still slipped through.
- Management enforcement of process compliance with consequences for failure to comply is a protective system.
- Lax management enforcement of process compliance might be a systemic cause if the fix were to reinforce the importance of process compliance and put consequences on management for lack of process discipline.
- However, in the recent examples of FBI failure, management was not lax in oversight, they were also complicit actors in avoiding the process. This is still behavioral, so the systemic root cause is not yet found.
- I'm going to suggest that the systemic root cause of the recent FBI disfunction is the "independent" nature of the FBI itself.
- This was magnified by the behavioral causes that top management felt they were unaccountable to anyone;
- that a single ideological mindset became established through years of political appointments that controlled the hiring practices of lower-level staff;
- that using management reinforcement to correct the root cause was ineffective given that management was a part of the problem, if not leading the effort.
- Therefore, we must look to other protective systems for corrections.
- One protective system is the Inspector General. While this seems to be working now, in hindsight it doesn't seem to have been effective at the time the actions were taking place.
- When the bad actors are the top management itself in a department, an IG is too easily bypassed. Therefore, a new protective system must be put in place.
- My proposed corrective system is to replace a federal-centric FBI with a state-centric investigative agency.
- This agency would have distributed leadership, since by following the militia model in the Constitution, the "officers" would be selected by the states and would be subject to recall at the whim of the home state.
- A single monolithic mindset cannot become entrenched, since concerned states can replace their officers at any time.
- I suggested attaching this investigative militia to the Commander-In-Chief directly on a case-by-case basis, with some provision for a senior officer hierarchy to manage separate state contingents.
- Since Congress has the authority to call up the militia, but the President is the Commander-In-Chief of the militia, there is a check-and-balance already in place.
- If a state investigative team finds evidence of a crime, the President can refer charges to the Department of Justice for further prosecutorial action.
- There would be no need for a Special Prosecutor, as the investigative arm of the called up militia units can do this.
- The Department of Justice can aid the investigations with grand juries, and criminal referrals would be passed along to the Department of Justice for action.
- The President can then release the militia units back to the states, preventing a runaway special prosecutor from expanding the scope of the investigation.
- "Process crimes," such as lying to the FBI, would go away as an especially nefarious tool of an over-zealous prosecutor.
-PJ
Any new leadership needs to back up and go after low hanging fruit.
Start with NYC office. Raid it, close it down. Full investigation down to the guys hired to tend the plants and empty the wastebaskets. Until they get to court treat them as guilty until proven otherwise. Gag order them. No WWW media comments, no leaving the area, no contact on anything. If they violate that put them in jail until proven otherwise.
Ain’t NO DC vermin complaining about Blondi! They’re all full speed ahead. These filthy Constitution killing felons watch The Blondi and Kash daily show on Fox and laugh their arses off about these do nothing pretenders. For real laughs, they check out FR to watch the “trust the plan” dipsters stroke each other with their nine year old hope porn.
“”I was honored to be at Dan’s 50th birthday party in December. He is beyond blessed with a loving family, loyal friends, thriving business, and a comfortable lifestyle—he did not sacrifice that for now to push papers around or hide the ball. That’s not his style whatsoever.
Be patient and trust those in charge. If in a year from now, we still don’t have some disclosures, you can bitch. Otherwise, appreciate and support the nearly insurmountable task before them.””
It’s an odd dichotomy. One one hand, I feel that we are truly blessed to now have the “right” guys in control and in the WH. On the other hand, I am missing the voice of reason via the conservative talk radio of olde.... which now includes Bongino. The new guy, Vince, has not impressed me. I feel somewhat abandoned.
But yes, it’s going to take a lot of patience and discernment/wisdom on our part to hold back on the criticism and give it time. We are all rather impatient due to years (decades) of being screwed over and lied to by the left AND by those supposedly on our side (See: globalist Bushies).
I wish Dan well in his new position and hope he and Patel can kick some much needed and long overdue leftist rear ends. And yeah, I want to see a LOT of perp walks to jail.
I know you have seniority here but that's harsh and unrealistic without a sarc tag. There's the bad ones and there's the ones who pretend they're not aware of it - which isn't as bad but degrades the system none the less.
The fed agencies, like most law enforcement, punish whistleblowers one way or another despite regs and laws forbidding that. "Crossing the line betraying the brotherhood" is regarded more egregious than breaking mere laws. Patel and Bongino have a Herculean task turning around that cultural norm.
In a year there had better be more than disclosures. There needs to be lots of criminal charges, arrests and prosecutions of high level corrupt individuals.
I was saying it somewhat light heartedly, but I admit that I view all these entreaties to put people in jail the same way I view people who criticize the Founders for not outlawing slavery and giving women the franchise in 1789.
This takes time. Granted, I fully understand we need to blow up what I would call "Deep State Time" which I view as...forever. We need to get it done. but we need to give them time. If we don't do it right, they will undo it.
For a long time, I was a reader of Sundance's work. But I have had to part ways with him on various things, and I part way with his take on this one.
I am careful to point out that Sundance was defending both Patel and Bongino from an X poster who said "Dan Bongino is playing the part of a glorified FBI press secretary. Not the flex we thought we were getting." So I credit him with taking that approach with his observation that it was unfair, and then he goes on to criticize them by saying they are not up to the task.
That is where I part ways with Sundance on this.
He makes the assertion that Bongino and Patel don't know how to delegate responsibility with his comment: "...You might note that Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent noticed this need very quickly, because he was/is a subject matter expert in large institutional leadership. Bessent has experience, Patel and Bongino do not...
Sundance is not in the FBI, and is not privy to what is going on there. He has no idea what is going on. He may have sources, but he didn't specify that. He just takes a Patel/Bongino comment that "X percent of the FBI are good people" and takes that to mean they don't know what is going on. Perhaps he is right.
But I am not going to criticize either of them, and I don't agree with this chorus of criticism just over sixty days into this Administration, with less time on the job for both Patel and Bongino.
They need time to do this, and they need time to do it right. I do expect results. But it is going to take longer than a few weeks.
I view what is going on the DOD and the FBI in much the same light. There are woke and corrupt people embedded in both, who have built fortresses to protect themselves. Digging them out is going to be an internecine battle that will be like going door-to-door in Fallujah, because those people aren't going to do a Perry Mason-like confession "Okay. I did it. I am responsible for [insert outrageous and illegal activity here]..."
They are going to hunker down like the insurgents in Fallujah or the Japanese defending Iwo Jima, and fight to the death (figuratively speaking) or are going to pull the ejection handles when the heat starts getting closer. We can always hope.
For those who DO hunker down and fight to the death (again, figuratively speaking) I expect there are people who hate what has happened to the military and the FBI, and they are going to help Hegseth, Patel, and Bongino root them out. They know what is what.
So this hand-to-hand combat is going to go on largely out of sight of our eyes and the news. We are only going to hear about this grim battle through firings and news leaks, perpetrated by both sides in the combat.
Our side will leak out things to make the snakes want to leave. Their side (the snakes) is going to leak out stories of dissension on the Trump team and unfair treatment of "loyal FBI agents" who have "spent their lives in the service of their country".
There are going to be internal meetings and confrontations, service files reviewed, careers ended, possibly some unjustly, hopefully some overdue, and there will always be snakes in the grass that convince the people trying to root them out that they are on the right side, even if they aren't.
But I am optimistic that, in the end, they will make a dent. I simply take issue with people screaming for scalps just two months in for the entire administration, never mind the positions of SecDef and FBI Director/Assistant Director which have been in office less than that.
I apologize for the sarcasm.
They have decided to join the Gestapho. They will do as little as they can only to keep Trump off their backs.
“Same thing here about Pam Bondi. Barely been there a month and they are always complaining...”
This is the Ukes and Never Trumpers new strategy. Pretend to support Trump but sabotage him by trashing his subordinates.
But to be fair they were going to destroy things anyway.
There needs to be a Constitutional Amendment to limit the transition period to ONE MONTH MAXIMUM.
There is no way they can blow smoke up our asses.
The F.B.I. Is and has been horse crap dirty for a very long time.
Until and unless a whole passel of these dirty creeps are charged and locked up than it will remain horse crap dirty.
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