EU says ‘unconditional withdrawal’ of Russia from Ukraine is a precondition to amend sanctions

WSAU ^ | 3/26/2025 | Thomson Reuters

[paudio]

When your position before negotiation is demanding “unconditional something”, it’s difficult to find any kind of agreement.

[Gaffer]

Nevertheless, Cutting Zelenskyy off would be my choice. I am against any proxy war with Russia.

[ohioman]

STFU Zeeper!

[MotorCityBuck]

Word Salad best describes your nonsense.
Keep going. I may subscribe to your newsletter.🤡😂

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

STFU Zeeper!

That's all you got?? Predictably void of any intelligent comment or ability to discuss rationally. At least show some basic level of consciousness and identify the specific comment that got your silk panties in such a bunch.

[CommerceComet]

Negotiations are in the early stages with everyone posturing now. Let the children chatter now but they will be sent to the other room and expected to be quiet when it’s time for the adults to seriously talk.

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

So you’re another one incapable of actually discussing an issue. Good to know!

[HamiltonJay]

Other suppliers cannot “FILL THE GAP”, at least not in any quick way.

If the pipelines from and through russia suddenly shut off, Europe could not get enough oil imported from other sources to fill the gap in any reasonable timeline.

Europe brought in 49.5bn cubic metres (bcm) of Russian gas through pipelines, and a further 24.2bcm in cold liquid form on ships, according to Fähnrich. Some of the LNG will have been resold to other countries in 2024.

65bcm isn’t going to showup in Europe from other sources overnight... and thats just LNG, thats not other energy.

EU uses about 320bcm per year. Meaning about 20% of the entire contintents LGN comes from Russia... That’s not showing up overnight or quickly from anywhere else in the world. Eventually yes, EU can get it from elsewhere.. but it sure won’t be showing up quickly.

To put this in perspective, the entire worlds shipping of LGN by boat in 2023 was 400M Metric Tones... or about 544BCM .

So to replace Russias contribution would mean that more than 10% of the entire volume of LGN shipped by boat would need to go EU on top of what its already importing.

You would need at least 10-12% more ships hauling LNG to even begin to cover replacing what Russia is providing the EU... lead time on building a tanker vessle is over 2 years.

Even if you could find the supplier who could make up the difference, you couldn’t get it enough ships to move it for years.

Oh sure EU could pay more, and redirect LGN bound for other markets I suppose, but reality is, that 12% isn’t going to just magically appear overnight.

This is just a joke, the whole thing is a joke.

[ohioman]

Gutless Trolls such as yourself do not deserve the respect and dignity of a reasonable argument.

[MotorCityBuck]

Never get in an argument with a Fool.

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

Nevertheless, Cutting Zelenskyy off would be my choice. I am against any proxy war with Russia.

That's fine. I don't agree but I understand the position.

My personal view on all this is that we spent horrendously huge amounts of money in opposition to the Russian Empire during the days of the Soviet Union, and only very rarely did anything to degrade the Russian military. Now, we have a country that - unlike some of the others we have supported, is actually willing to do the fighting themselves. So to me, this is actually an incredibly cheap/economical way of permanently degrading the Russian military without the loss of a single American life.

But I also understand and respect the perspective of those who simply do not want to spend the money.

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

Gutless Trolls

What makes me "gutless", exactly?

[Mount Athos]

If anyone wants a reality check...

Take a look at a currency chart of the Russian ruble vs Dollar.

There is no way that the Ruble can be the most improved currency in the past year, without billions and billions of dollars having flooded in from buying Russian gas, oil, fertilizer...

There is a HUGE black market and purchases are not getting declared. If I’m wrong then explain the big currency change...

[EQAndyBuzz]

To think, only if the EU can purchase oil and gas from another country. Like maybe the US. That will bring Russia to the table very quickly. And why does the EU have to buy gas and oil from Russia? Can’t they get all that energy from their windmills and solar panels?

[AndyJackson]

books on the ground

What a great idea. I could contribute a few boxes of PD James, Travis McGee and Doc Ford novels. That should keep everyone so entertained they wouldn't have time for this idiotic globallony war nonsense.

[Mount Athos]

The cost of US gas in Europe would be several times the cost of Russian gas.
It’s not cheap to compress gas, get it onto specialized ships via specialized terminals, offload from specialized terminal.

There is a shortage of the special gas ships, it’s also not perfectly safe at these terminals.

[sinsofsolarempirefan]

$300 billion in frozen assets, an important Russian export market (or was). Europe is more relevant to Russia economically speaking than the US. Pre 2022 40% of Russia’s exports went to the EU, only 5% went to the US.

The question should be ‘why do the Americans have input’?

[tennmountainman]

“What they want is an end to the war that doesn’t end up rewarding Russia for invading its neighbor. A very simple, basic concept.”

Some EU fools talked about admitting YouCrayne in NATO.

Everyday the War continues, the Ukes and EU Counties will see Ruzzia take
more Ukie Territory.

[sinsofsolarempirefan]

You over-estimate Russia’s importance as an export market for the EU. Russia’s gdp is equivalent to that of Spain alone. The EU’s total economy is 10 times the size of Russia’s.

[Cronos]

EQ - as to "why?"

that is because, prior to 2014, and even into 2023, the big European countries believed that if they set up a peaceful relationship with Putin, gave him what he wanted (a free hand in his country), traded with him, then military adventures would not happen.

It was the idea that Russia would be tied in to Germany, France, etc. in a mutually beneficial economic relationship.

But that idea failed spectacularly.

That's why they buy from the RF

As to "can't they get all that energy from" - here is a breakdown of energy sources for all EU countries combined

After the USSR fell, there was the plan to buy Russian oil and gas and kumbaya

Renewables