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The Time Is Ripe for a Serious Adaptation of ‘Starship Troopers’
Chronicles ^ | March 21, 2025 | Pedro Gonzalez

Posted on 03/23/2025 3:49:43 PM PDT by Angelino97

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To: Angelino97
Don’t get me wrong, I love Paul Verhoeven’s 1997 cut, not least because Verhoeven tried and failed to satirize the subject matter.

The movie was CRAP

Yes he tried and failed to satirize the book.

A good satirization would have been funny.

His movie was sad and incoherent.

21 posted on 03/23/2025 4:35:29 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Angelino97

Sign me up! I loved District 9 and Chappie.


22 posted on 03/23/2025 4:35:31 PM PDT by FlatulusMaximus
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To: cuban leaf

Kind of hard to spring something on the movie goers as was done in the last paragraph in the book. As for the movie, all that shooting when a little dab of DDT would have done the trick.


23 posted on 03/23/2025 4:35:45 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Angelino97
Neil Blomkamp has a tall order in making a faithful adaptation of Starship Troopers. This movie could easily break him even if he does a great job. Explaining “The Franchise” to an audience in 2020something would be enough to make their heads explode. I wish him well and look forward to seeing his adaptation.
24 posted on 03/23/2025 4:36:45 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Qwapisking

ISWYDT!


25 posted on 03/23/2025 4:37:23 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Trying to remember the books ending....

Was it a realization that the PTB were keeping the wars going?


26 posted on 03/23/2025 4:41:35 PM PDT by Chickensoup
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To: BradyLS

I read Heinlein’s books about 50 years ago. The “we can throw rocks at them” sequence from the Moon is a Harsh Mistress still resonates the best with me. I seem to recall there being no good governments in Troopers. The Earth government was only counting contract time while they were thawed out, if I recall correctly. As I said, it has been a long time.


27 posted on 03/23/2025 4:42:10 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: Angelino97
It's ancient Sparta gone interstellar.

Not even close.

And it is not even "structured along extremely hierarchical and militaristic lines".

The basic concept of the society was if you want to be a voter you need to show first that you were willing to serve the community. And while the book follows someone who joined the military (because most other options would have made for a boring book) the military was not the only path.

One of the early chapters talks about this and how they would find a way for anyone who wanted to do their (I think it was two years) of service to do it. I believe the example used was a deaf and blind guy who was in a wheelchair and if he wanted to serve they would find a job for him. Once he had completed his service he was just as much a voting citizen as the greatest military hero.

Because it was not what you did but that you were willing to give of yourself to do it.

If you want to do the book justice you need to get the world building right.

28 posted on 03/23/2025 4:47:34 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: The Louiswu
Late in life he started showing his twisted side. His book, Number of the Beast has allusions to homosexuality, pedophilia and incest.

The 60s kind of unhinged him.

Maybe he dropped acid, I don't know.

29 posted on 03/23/2025 4:48:09 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: Chickensoup
No.
30 posted on 03/23/2025 4:49:40 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: Angelino97

To the everlasting glory of the infantry
Shines the name, shines the name of Rodger Young!


31 posted on 03/23/2025 4:50:45 PM PDT by yuleeyahoo (“Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!” - the deep-state)
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To: Chickensoup

Johnnie is pretty much presented as a gee-whiz (but naive only to how the military works), “All-American” young man. The twist is he’s ethnically Filipino and can speak Tagalog: the native language of the Phillipines.


32 posted on 03/23/2025 4:50:56 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Zackly. Well-said!


33 posted on 03/23/2025 4:52:56 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: BradyLS

…It’s also easy to forget that he grew up in Buenos Aires, Argentina.


34 posted on 03/23/2025 4:54:11 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: BradyLS
Thank you. I wrote my book report on the world building, although I think I called it the back ground setting, which did not go over well with the class at large.

Everyone else, "Ohhhh, fight bugs in space!"

Me: "The principle for weeding out people who are not willing to serve the community and therefore would not have given much thought to how certain actions would impact the community at large is basically sound."

:Encyclopedias are thrown in my general direction:

35 posted on 03/23/2025 5:11:22 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: cuban leaf

The big titties version was still pretty good.


36 posted on 03/23/2025 5:12:38 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: cuban leaf

You can’t faithfully do justice to the book in a 2 hour movie.

The best book adaptations are in the form of a multi-part miniseries. Lonesome Dove is a perfect example.


37 posted on 03/23/2025 5:12:45 PM PDT by sevlex
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To: Angelino97

I loved the book; I loved the movie.

They were two different tellings of the same story.


38 posted on 03/23/2025 5:27:43 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (🤪)
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The best book adaptations are in the form of a multi-part miniseries. Lonesome Dove is a perfect example

It is the classic example.

Although, there are some excellent stand-alone movies based upon books. Jurassic Park, for instance.

39 posted on 03/23/2025 5:35:47 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (🤪)
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To: Pontiac
The movie was CRAP

It was a good sci-fi "B" movie, with a thin patina of Starship Troopers.

I have read that the it was pretty far along in development as just that, when the producers got the movie rights to Starship Troopers, and decided to just dress up their bug killing movie with themes from Heinlein, without spending the money to do the power suits.

Which is why you get a not terrible presentation of the franchise, and personal responsibility, combined with "action" scenes straight out the Jar-Jar Binks school of infantry tactics.

40 posted on 03/23/2025 5:39:31 PM PDT by Pilsner
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