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Fact Finders: Can you shoot down a drone?
Here’s why you don’t have the right to interfere with the flight of an aircraft.
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| January 15, 2025
| Paul Adler
Posted on 03/22/2025 7:45:57 AM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: alexander_busek
Are airports required to tolerate drones being flown by outside individuals, less than 400 ft above ground? No? Then why am I required to tolerate it? Why should I not be allowed to exercise as much authority over my property as an airport (incl. general aviation airports) does?As I posted above, you only own up to 83' of air above your property and that drones must be flown below 400'.
They may operate in an airports controlled space provided they have contacted the airport or the the control tower at the airport either by phone or using an app like AirMap.
You are required to tolerate it because you only own the air over your property up to 83' AGL.
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posted on
03/22/2025 12:26:33 PM PDT
by
Ol' Dan Tucker
(For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Is true.Prove it. Let's see your source for this assertion.
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posted on
03/22/2025 12:28:17 PM PDT
by
Ol' Dan Tucker
(For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
To: Ol' Dan Tucker
No one has the right to fly their radio controlled plane over your property without permission either.
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posted on
03/22/2025 12:31:07 PM PDT
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
To: Ol' Dan Tucker
You quoted the regs yourself "FAA regulations establish that public airspace starts at 500' above uncongested areas".
If it is not "Public Airspace" it belongs to the people who own the property underneath it.
Something is either public property or private property.
400 feet is generally the height used by most states to decide if it is a case of trespass or not.
Proof provided.
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posted on
03/22/2025 12:35:47 PM PDT
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
To: Harmless Teddy Bear
No one has the right to fly their radio controlled plane over your property without permission either.Another baseless assertion.
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posted on
03/22/2025 12:37:30 PM PDT
by
Ol' Dan Tucker
(For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
To: NFHale
“Should have made that clear, my bad.”
Nah, you’re cool. I don’t like the things in peacetime either if they are misused. Emergency and police might need them. My problem is that they have become a nuisance to everything from traffic control, to emergency contingencies, airlines, and privacy. Isn’t it always the way for man to screw up a good thing? And we’re supposed to be on top of the food chain. (Of course, we said that)
wy69
To: Harmless Teddy Bear
400 feet is generally the height used by most states to decide if it is a case of trespass or not.Cite a law or court case.
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posted on
03/22/2025 12:39:21 PM PDT
by
Ol' Dan Tucker
(For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Proof provided.Your baseless assertions are not proof of anything but your ignorance.
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posted on
03/22/2025 12:40:53 PM PDT
by
Ol' Dan Tucker
(For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
To: whitney69
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posted on
03/22/2025 12:41:40 PM PDT
by
NFHale
(The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
To: Ol' Dan Tucker
Is true.
Keep your childish toys off other people's property.
It is cute that you supplied the picture of a man overcome with emotion because of his failure. Makes it real ironic.
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posted on
03/22/2025 12:45:40 PM PDT
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
To: Ol' Dan Tucker
They may operate in an airports controlled space provided they have contacted the airport or the the control tower at the airport either by phone or using an app like AirMap. And they may operate in my controlled space - provided they first contact me and obtain my permission.
If an airport can deny permission, then I should likewise be able to deny permission.
See no reason why an airport should be afforded greater use, enjoyment, or protection of its airspace than I.
Regards,
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posted on
03/22/2025 12:49:20 PM PDT
by
alexander_busek
(Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
To: Ol' Dan Tucker
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posted on
03/22/2025 12:57:15 PM PDT
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Is true.Then, it should be easy for you to prove me wrong.
Keep your childish toys off other people's property.
Anything at least 83' AGL and below 500' AGL is not your property. While it's illegal for someone to fly their drone from your property without permission, they don't need your permission to fly over your property.
It is cute that you supplied the picture of a man overcome with emotion because of his failure. Makes it real ironic.
Parading your ignorance again for all to see. Charlton Heston as Taylor in 1969's Planet of the Apes is laughing at fellow astronaut Landon for planting an American flag.
See: Planet of the Apes - Charlton Heston Laugh
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posted on
03/22/2025 1:02:56 PM PDT
by
Ol' Dan Tucker
(For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
To: alexander_busek
And they may operate in my controlled space - provided they first contact me and obtain my permission.Where does your controlled airspace end?
See no reason why an airport should be afforded greater use, enjoyment, or protection of its airspace than I.
Do you have aircraft operations on your property? How many airplanes take-off and land at your property?
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posted on
03/22/2025 1:05:02 PM PDT
by
Ol' Dan Tucker
(For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
To: joe fonebone
Ok. I misunderstood you.
My point boils down to one thing...respect.
These clowns are abusing a hobby to instigate a confrontation. The question often asked is, why?
It boils down to respect.
And we wonder why we get laws passed that become intrusive in time.
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posted on
03/22/2025 1:06:12 PM PDT
by
crz
To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Ok Brandon.I'm not the one asserting that I own all the air over my property up to the vacuum of space.
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posted on
03/22/2025 1:06:44 PM PDT
by
Ol' Dan Tucker
(For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
To: Ol' Dan Tucker
As I said a man overcome by failure. Destined to be enslaved by apes.
Read your own posts, you said it yourself. Over 500 public air space, under private. On or off.
And your conclusion that anything over 83 feet is legal is so dumb that no one takes it seriously. That had nothing to do with anything.
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posted on
03/22/2025 1:07:48 PM PDT
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
To: Ol' Dan Tucker
I'm not the one asserting that I own all the air over my property up to the vacuum of space. And now, unable to defend your preposterous assertions you out and out lie about what I said.
Stop eating Hunter's nose powder Brandon.
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posted on
03/22/2025 1:10:55 PM PDT
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Read your own posts, you said it yourself. Over 500 public air space, under private. On or off.Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it?
I also showed that the USSC ruled in 1946 that ownership of the airspace over your property extends only up to 83' AGL.
Additionally, I showed that FAA regulations forbid sUAS operations above 400' AGL and that public airspace begins at 500' AGL.
Thus, the space between 83' AGL and 400' AGL is fair game. No one owns it.
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posted on
03/22/2025 1:12:50 PM PDT
by
Ol' Dan Tucker
(For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
To: Harmless Teddy Bear
And now, unable to defend your preposterous assertions you out and out lie about what I said.I guess I should have included the </sarcasm> tag, but I'd assumed I wouldn't need it.
I won't make that mistake with you again.
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posted on
03/22/2025 1:15:09 PM PDT
by
Ol' Dan Tucker
(For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
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