Tired of Taxes: Both sides view themselves as victims - one of the 'patriarchy,' the other of a 'gynocentric culture.' Radical feminists believe men hold all the power, and the manosphere men believe women hold all the power. Radical feminists are women who hate men, and manosphere men are men who hate women. And, just like most men want nothing to do with women who hate men (radical feminists), most women want nothing to do with men who hate women (the manosphere).
First of all: I have already explained that the manosphere is a mixed bag, and contains some unsavory elements - which I soundly reject.
1. The "niche" podcasters in the manosphere who openly hate women or encourage hate are certainly a small minority.
2. The "Pick-Up Artists" whose goal is only to seduce women represent another, somewhat larger minority. (I can't know exactly the proportions since I obviously don't actively seek out such women-haters and cads.)
Your repeated assertions that the manosphere is no better (or the "mirror image") of radical feminism imply that you have undertaken an objective study, and can cite objective statistics.
But that isn't the case, is it?
I repeat that just because both spheres may have some similar but opposing views you are unfair to equate them. (Both Churchill and Hitler bombed each other's cities, called for the utter destruction of their opponents, drank tea - but they are most definitely not therefore "two sides of the same medallion!)
I, for my part, have explicitly identified several manosphere podcasters whom I appreciate to varying degrees and, for all their foibles, who have something of value to offer (see my post #227 above).
I therefore challenge you to do the same, to corroborate your negative view of the manosphere! List several sites that do nothing but foster hatred towards the female sex! And place them in quantitative relation to the far greater number of sites promulgating useful knowledge and practical advice!
(Although I have already conceded that "bad actors" exist - but that I reject them, and that I can't be held to account for their unhealthy attitudes.)
But, I checked one of his videos where he was insulting people. Not my cup of tea.
You have to watch at least a dozen of them. If you're lucky, you might find some where Mr. Samuels actually slaps some sense into these delusional women, and/or where he consoles them and/or where they thank him for his efforts!
(Don't accidentally waste your time watching "comment videos" where other people bloviate on snippets of Kevin's sessions.)
TikTok is not real life.
Young men and women today are spending more time online than in real-life social interactions (not counting work-hours - though I'm not sure that they aren't actually watching/making TikTok even while on the job!)
After a certain point, PERCEPTION IS REALITY.
Today, YouTube and TikTok and the like have a far bigger impact upon shaping culture generally and the worldviews of young people specifically than Bible Study Classes or listening to family stories and sage wisdom at one's father's knee.
(But again, I exhort and implore you to view at least a dozen of Kevin's YouTube clips. It's really a hoot how he systematically disabuses young Black women of their skewed values, selfish attitudes, and warped perceptions!)
Regards,
Based on your descriptions alone of those podcasters, I wouldn't waste my time. Unless they are telling young men and women to respect themselves and each other, they have nothing to offer but bad advice.
>"Young men and women today are spending more time online than in real-life social interactions"<
There's the real problem. Proximity is a big factor in a person's dating life.
It's mostly a matter of numbers and proximity. High school sweethearts meet in school. Other young people meet in their neighborhood or social groups. Then, in their late teens and early 20s, more young men and women begin to pair off as they meet in college or through friends. Some people meet at their church. Then, people meet at work (not always a good idea). As the years pass, fewer and fewer people remain single.
I would advise all young men and women to stop obsessing over their love lives (or lack thereof). Get out and get involved. Oh, and stop worrying about being 'friend-zoned.' Many young couples start out as friends.