Posted on 02/02/2025 9:40:53 AM PST by BenLurkin
The Learjet 55, operated by Jet Rescue Air Ambulance, took off at 6:06 p.m. Friday, climbed to about 1,500 feet and then rapidly descended, National Transportation Safety Board investigator Bill Hicks told reporters during a press briefing Saturday.
On Sunday morning, Jet Rescue Air Ambulance identified those aboard the crashed jet as pediatric patient Valentina Guzman Murillo and her mother, Lizeth Murillo Ozuna; Dr. Raul Meza Arredondo, paramedic Lopez Padilla, flight Capt. Alan Alejandro Montoya Perales and co-pilot Josue De Jesus Juarez Juarez.
The "high-impact" crash left debris scattered across four to five city blocks, Homendy said. Investigators have yet to recover the jet's black box, which she said may have been damaged or destroyed.
"It could be intact," she said. "But likely it is damaged. It may be fragmented."
Philadelphia residents or business owners who find debris should email the NTSB at witness@ntsb.gov, Homendy said.
"We're not going to have answers right away. It's going to take time. But as I get those answers, I'm going to share it with all of you."
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Another video shows an explosion at the rear of the plane and the plane diving rapidly -i.e. loss of flight controls.
My thoughts as well. Could be a bomb planted on the plane while in Philly?
If it really was burning before the crash then most probably either a bird/drone strike or cabin fire exacerbated by the use of medical oxygen, I think.
By the way, are you related to Flandry of Terra?
It was in a left turn, so possible banked too far and stalled. Lear jets require a high level of proficiency as you can get behind the power curve very quickly. It’s a very unforgiving plane. A few years ago another air ambulance Lear jet crashed in San Diego after cancelling IFR while circling to land. If you want to hear the last words of the pilot google N880Z atc last words. Warning...not for the faint of heart.
Yeah, load shift stall looked good but ADS B data says lowest airspeed was 240 kt, well above stall speed.
Sies Sinkco ?
I wonder how many hours the flight crew had been on duty in the previous 2 or three days and if fatigue played a factor.
The LeartJet 55 is a flying gas tank. One leaking Oxygen tank and the smallest spark.....KABOOM !
Lots of different camera angles of the crash.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/watch-dramatic-footage-show-private-jet-crashing-northeast-philadelphia
Over Mucho Grande?
That’s what I was thinking.
Plane sadly turned into a giant lawn dart at that point traveling downward at 160-180 miles per hour.
I think we are looking at a toss that landed 100 yards or so from the explosion on the ground. From what I’ve seen of smaller explosions, the one we saw here could do it...
OTOH, an explosion aloft, involving an oxygen tank, could rip a hole in the fuselage, with a person exiting that way...
It’s all bad, however it happened, except for getting to die quickly.
I am far from an expert on the subject but I have stayed at a Holliday Inn Express in the past and watched almost all of the Air Disasters episodes. My guess is the flaps were not set.
Heard rumors about oxygen (always on hand on a medical plane).
IIRC, some significant “pieces” of the plane were found buried deep into the ground, in PA. But I believe you are right about no recognizable bodies. Flight 93 hit the ground at something like 570 mph, PLUS the explosion. :-(
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