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DeepSeek: A Chinese Psyop?
amuseonx.substack.com ^ | 27 Jan, 2025 | AMUSE on X

Posted on 01/28/2025 8:10:52 AM PST by MtnClimber

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1 posted on 01/28/2025 8:10:52 AM PST by MtnClimber
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It sure caused the Nvidia stock price to drop.


2 posted on 01/28/2025 8:11:03 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Maybe it was the Chinese government’s ploy to buy low and sell high?

That would not surprise me for the Chinese to claim an advance to drop a stock in order to buy it up.


3 posted on 01/28/2025 8:12:39 AM PST by Jonty30 (If you ate your twin in the womb, your pronouns should be we/us.)
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If the CCP weren’t Communists they could have Capitalized on the price drop. lol


4 posted on 01/28/2025 8:12:55 AM PST by 1malumprohibitum (I’m )
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Even Microsoft said AI will never be secure so Deepseek is spyware , even sounds like spyware ,LOL


5 posted on 01/28/2025 8:13:19 AM PST by butlerweave
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Hmmm. DeepSeek coder. Inserts backdoors every other line of code.


6 posted on 01/28/2025 8:15:34 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (Running Rampant, and not endorsing nonsense; My pronoun is EXIT. And I am generally full of /S)
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Have the Chinese done something that would make them untrustworthy?


7 posted on 01/28/2025 8:15:40 AM PST by Frank Drebin (And don't ever let me catch you guys in America!)
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Wow, it racked up some fantastic numbers in Codeforces, AIME 2024, MMLU, GPQA Diamond, WE-bench Verified, and AlpacaEval 2.0! Wouldn’t you agree?

But what about KittyKat 3.4 and LlamaPet 12.6? Why were those omitted?


8 posted on 01/28/2025 8:17:11 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (They were the FA-est of times, they were the FO-est of times.)
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They probably did. They are only communists in name. The party is an oligarch party in reality.


9 posted on 01/28/2025 8:19:30 AM PST by Jonty30 (If you ate your twin in the womb, your pronouns should be we/us.)
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“Some people have “ “possible ties”??? Who, the ones with an IQ greater than the average of any still in the Democratic party?

Any company operating in China is directly controlled by the CCP. Geesh. It has been that way for ages. That is the basis of communism — despite the contrary lies of DBags like Cuban who like buying Chinese trash.


10 posted on 01/28/2025 8:22:11 AM PST by bobbo666
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More likely an American psyop.

We give it to them to introduce, conveniently, the week the Trump admin wants to introduce a new, AI, “Manhattan project”. As if the Ellison/Altman announcement weren’t bad enough.


11 posted on 01/28/2025 8:23:18 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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DeepSeek claims to have developed the R1 model in less than two years with only $5.6 million, using less advanced Nvidia H800 chips .

That's wrong. IIRC, DeepSeek claimed it developed and trained R1 in 2 months, not 2 years (55 days to be exact).

This looks like a Chinese psyop alright.

12 posted on 01/28/2025 8:23:37 AM PST by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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The R1 model was trained using multi-stage training and large-scale reinforcement learning techniques.
= = =

Is that Chinese training by torture methods.

Ask DeepSeek to list any of Xi’s failures.


13 posted on 01/28/2025 8:27:08 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (Running Rampant, and not endorsing nonsense; My pronoun is EXIT. And I am generally full of /S)
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Ask DeepSeek how CCP spys on the US.


14 posted on 01/28/2025 8:29:39 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (Running Rampant, and not endorsing nonsense; My pronoun is EXIT. And I am generally full of /S)
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Seems to me this article minimizes the fact that DeepSeek has made RI an Open Source project. What this means is that they have made the source code that drives this system available to anyone who wants to use it. The idea of a trap door in “every other line of code” if kinda hard when you can view every line of code.

Is the source code the same as that of the RI system? I don’t know, but if that code is available, just compile it and see how it compares to the “real” system.


15 posted on 01/28/2025 8:34:37 AM PST by econjack
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Anyone who uses deepseek and rednote are as good as spies for the Chinese.


16 posted on 01/28/2025 8:36:52 AM PST by BigFreakinToad (All she is, is cackles in the wind.)
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I don’t know a thing about this stuff but I still smell a rat and panic over what seems unlikely.


17 posted on 01/28/2025 8:39:00 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Donald John Trump. First man to be Elected to the Presidency THREE times since FDR.)
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Per Reuters:
Scale AI CEO Alexandr Wang said during an interview with CNBC on Thursday [of last week], without providing evidence, that DeepSeek has 50,000 Nvidia H100 chips.
The H800 chip, used by China and DeepSeek to train the R1 AI platform, is a downgraded version of the H100 with about half the interconnect bandwidth. While it retains strong AI processing power, its reduced performance makes it less suitable for cutting-edge, large-scale AI workloads.

But China wouldn't cheat, steal, or lie would it?

18 posted on 01/28/2025 8:51:41 AM PST by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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He also runs a hedge fund, which could potentially be funding DeepSeek’s operations.


Just adds money to the pool from the CCP which controls every single business in China - all businesses are required to have at least one Party member to manage to company. This is all part of the Civilian-Military Fusion policy begun by Xi Jinping.

There is no such thing as a government-independent company in China. The CCP runs everything.


19 posted on 01/28/2025 9:03:31 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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registering for use of Deepseek requires you to give then your email address and likely goes downhill from there.


20 posted on 01/28/2025 9:07:25 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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