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Can Trump just order new names for Denali and the Gulf of Mexico? A geographer explains who decides what goes on the map
The Conversation ^ | January 25, 2025 | Innisfree McKinnon

Posted on 01/26/2025 5:50:12 AM PST by DoodleBob

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To: bk1000

Murkowski had McKinley renamed to Denali for politics...turns out none of the Eskimos tribes had called it that - but they all had different names for it....
Greenfield wrote a good article on it.


41 posted on 01/26/2025 7:41:28 AM PST by trebb (So many fools - so little time...)
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To: DoodleBob

We call any place what we want to call it, the international community be damned.

Do we follow what the natives say about Deutschland, Misr, Nippon?
Or do we call them what we want?
And is it still Constantinople? Ceylon? The Gulf of Siam? Burma?


42 posted on 01/26/2025 7:44:31 AM PST by oldbill
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To: DoodleBob

Your comment is spot on. He DID change the name and he can change the name. They just don’t like it.


43 posted on 01/26/2025 7:45:45 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

The answer to your questions is “YES!”


44 posted on 01/26/2025 7:52:26 AM PST by Mathews (I have faith Malachi is right!!! Any day now...)
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To: KingLudd

Why can’t they just call the mountain Denali or Mount Denali and the park McKinley National Park?


45 posted on 01/26/2025 7:56:02 AM PST by Let's Roll ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality" -- Ayn Rand)
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To: DoodleBob

Denali - Trump has as much power to change the name as Obama had

Gulf of Mexico - this could wind up being a place with two names, like the Persian Gulf (called the Arabian Gulf in Arab countries)

Sea of Japan - call the East Sea in Korea


46 posted on 01/26/2025 8:04:03 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: DoodleBob

I don’t recall all these chin-rubbing concerns being raised when Obama all of a sudden renamed Mt. McKinley to Mt. Denali.


47 posted on 01/26/2025 8:09:39 AM PST by Dan in Wichita
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To: DoodleBob

All “boards” and such are another means of putting bureaucrat “experts” over and above the people.


48 posted on 01/26/2025 8:22:36 AM PST by Wuli
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To: DoodleBob

Agree with mostly everything that Trump is doing but renaming the Gulf of Mexico. I say just leave it alone as history. Should we rename the state of New Mexico as well? Let’s not get too thin-skinned on all the stuff that doesn’t have much impact. Bigger fish to fry.


49 posted on 01/26/2025 8:29:21 AM PST by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: DoodleBob

If it’s not legal, then it wasn’t legal for Obama to do it.


50 posted on 01/26/2025 9:03:48 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: DoodleBob

It didn’t bother the world or cartographers when they eliminated Israel from the maps of the middle east. I say go for it. And actually large portions of the Gulf are considered U.S. territorial waters. So why not? Gulf of America honors both continents and lies between them. How did one lone country get to name it after itself?


51 posted on 01/26/2025 9:08:01 AM PST by Whatever Works (The real power lies in who counts the votes and controls the teleprompter.)
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To: DoodleBob

With all the much bigger problems we have, why are we wasting our time and energy on this?

On the other hand, maybe he’s just as pissed off as the rest of us at all the things that have been renamed and he’s just making a point.


52 posted on 01/26/2025 9:32:34 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they. control you. )
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To: ansel12
Minnesota recently changed the name of a large lake (Lake Calhoun) in Minneapolis to Bde Maka Ska

How is "Bde" pronounced -- it is like "bidet"?

53 posted on 01/26/2025 11:24:04 AM PST by Albion Wilde (“Did you ever meet a woke person that’s happy? There’s no such thing.” —Donald J. Trump)
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To: bk1000

Did you read the article, attached in its entirety so you didn’t even have to click a link? According to the article Alaska had been trying to get the name changed back to Denali since 1975. And Americans were about evenly split on renaming military bases named after confederates.


54 posted on 01/26/2025 11:38:22 AM PST by Kathy in OC
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To: MayflowerMadam
Gulf of America makes most sense. It’s surrounded by North America and Central America. And maybe South America.

Nah, the Caribbean Sea borders the north coast of South America. The Gulf of America touches only the shores of the U.S., Mexico and Cuba.

At first, I thought it would sound better if called the "Gulf of the Americas", but the Gulf is bordered in the south by the Yucatan Channel that runs between Yucatan and Cuba, below which is the Caribbean Sea, and then South America.

map of Central America

55 posted on 01/26/2025 11:44:11 AM PST by Albion Wilde (“Did you ever meet a woke person that’s happy? There’s no such thing.” —Donald J. Trump)
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To: tflabo
I say just leave it alone as history. Should we rename the state of New Mexico as well? Let’s not get too thin-skinned on all the stuff that doesn’t have much impact. Bigger fish to fry.

When I was a contractor, I often offered clients three options. If a client was difficult or oppositional by nature, I would campaign for the one I liked the least, knowing he would probably shoot it down. That gave me the best shot at getting either the first or second one that I actually wanted.

Trump has learned a lot about distracting the negative chatterers by plumping up a non-issue—so that he can do the more complex things that the media can't be bothered to research or understand.

56 posted on 01/26/2025 11:51:47 AM PST by Albion Wilde (“Did you ever meet a woke person that’s happy? There’s no such thing.” —Donald J. Trump)
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To: Fiji Hill
If you are (morbidly) curious, open up your favorite online mapping application and zoom in on Little Rock, AR between the south bank of the Arkansas River and I-440 in the southeastern part of town.

Warning: This is not for the faint of heart!

57 posted on 01/26/2025 12:17:05 PM PST by ClarityGuy
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To: ClarityGuy
Warning: This is not for the faint of heart!

Yes, indeed!

58 posted on 01/26/2025 12:59:11 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Kathy in OC

Leftist.


59 posted on 01/26/2025 8:18:19 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Call Traitor General Milley back into service, bust him to private, courtmartial, convict, hang.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

LOL. Did I say something untrue? You’re so sensitive, like a little snowflake.


60 posted on 01/26/2025 8:28:13 PM PST by Kathy in OC
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