Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article


1 posted on 01/18/2025 5:27:01 AM PST by MtnClimber
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


To: MtnClimber

Will DOGE get the job done? I am not holding my breath.


2 posted on 01/18/2025 5:27:43 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: MtnClimber

I once heard a discussion where the person said that term limits would be good, but the real power lies with the unelected bureaucracy


4 posted on 01/18/2025 5:38:47 AM PST by blitz128
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: MtnClimber

The real problem is going to come from the entrenched bureaucracy who will tell the new administration, we cannot do that because it is against our rules. You bring those guys in along with their bosses up the chain and bring in the rules guys and tell them, this is legal and it’s going to happen and you are going to fix your rules, or 24 hrs from now none of you have jobs, and as of right now that ridiculous rule is canclled and you have 1 hr to bring me the memo so I can sign it or you are dismissed now!


5 posted on 01/18/2025 5:41:41 AM PST by AndyJackson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: MtnClimber

I believe 15% of the federal workforce are over 60. I expect to see a lot of retirements.

I do expect to see increased efficiency, and a lot of jobs going away.

And there will be a certain amount of “legal problems” that may convince people to move on to other things.

There are definitely ideologues in the bureaucracy, and I think ideologues have been moving up. The leadership is driven by Progressive ideology. If we can get rid of a lot of those people, we may find some lower level people who don’t much care about ideology but who just want steady employment. Or, if they are somewhat ideological, they may be smart enough to realize that shutting up and just pushing their pencils is the safest way to keep out of trouble.


7 posted on 01/18/2025 5:44:00 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: MtnClimber

Exhibit 1
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4290868/posts


8 posted on 01/18/2025 5:45:34 AM PST by blitz128
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: MtnClimber

A progressive lifetime income tax on government privilege income is possible (payable prior to standard 1040 income taxation and deductible for standard 1040 income taxation, sort of like state income tax is federally treated):

first $1,000,000 0%
next $1,000,000 10%
next $1,000,000 20%
next $1,000,000 30%
....
over $10,000,000 99%

These brackets be adjusted 3% per year for inflation.

Government privileged income would be any income gained by or with the assistance of government power.

Government-funded school teachers, lawyers, doctors, dentists, licensed contractors who do more than 10% by revenue of government restricted work such as asbestos inspections and clean up, employees and owners of businesses who get more than 10% of income from government, employees of tax-deductible charities and foundations, CDL truck drivers, unionized employees not waiving government union employee protection, government employees including military, elected federal officeholders, etc. would be subject to the tax.

It would be paid on their salaries, wages, pensions, all government funded health care including Medicare & Medicaid, all mandated health care benefits, all government pensions including Social Security and military, government housing assistance, HUD fair market valuations of low income housing, etc.

People would generally shift out of government work and into the pure market sector.


9 posted on 01/18/2025 6:17:28 AM PST by Brian Griffin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: MtnClimber

Easy-peasey. Rotate all depts across nation to different cities. Spread the tax $$ around and shed the losers. When they quit, they get no benefits.

We do not need everything in one place. Zoom is better than the swamp.


12 posted on 01/18/2025 6:46:41 AM PST by bobbo666
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: MtnClimber
From 1963...

Bureaucracy Kills: A Lesson from Rome

14 posted on 01/18/2025 6:54:31 AM PST by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: MtnClimber; suthener; blitz128; AndyJackson; Brian Griffin
I have a letter I send out annually on the subject

Supreme Court 9, Administrative State 0

On April 14, 2023, the Supreme Court struck a blow supporting our Constitution and individual liberties. Beginning in the late nineteenth century, citizens began losing many freedoms through administrative edicts. Appeals of these regulations had to be made to courts within an agency, which has already found the people guilty. Such power harks back to discretions of English kings unrestrained by Parliament found in such places as King’s Council and the Star Chamber.

The Supreme Court acted to reassert the jurisdiction of district and circuit courts and the legislature as established by the Constitution. All power was to reside there, so Americans could avoid the sad experience of English citizens. Justice Kagan delivered the unanimous opinion of the court saying, “One respondent attacks as well the combination of prosecutorial and adjudicatory functions in a single agency….They maintain in essence that the agencies as currently structured, are unconstitutional in much of their work”.

You and I could relate too many examples of people’s frustrating experiences facing government bureaucrats. Their sufferings cause me to reflect on a passage where Fredrick Douglass describes overseer duties. I only substituted for the words slave, overseer, and master.

“No matter how innocent a citizen might be it availed him nothing when accused by the bureaucrat of any violation of a regulation. To be accused was to be convicted and to be convicted was to be punished….To escape punishment was to escape accusation….few citizens had the fortune to do either under the overseership of the agency.”

Supreme Court 9, Administrative State 0

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4145682/posts

The History and Danger of Administrative Law

https://constitutionclub.wordpress.com/2014/10/01/the-history-and-danger-of-administrative-law/

Administrative law is commonly defended as a new sort of power, a product of the 19th and the 20th centuries that developed to deal with the problems of modern society in all its complexity. From this perspective, the Framers of the Constitution could not have anticipated it and the Constitution could not have barred it. What I will suggest, in contrast, is that administrative power is actually very old. It revives what used to be called prerogative or absolute power, and it is thus something that the Constitution centrally prohibited.

16 posted on 01/18/2025 7:06:03 AM PST by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: V_TWIN

This thread is hysterically funny.


29 posted on 01/19/2025 6:20:09 AM PST by sauropod ("You didn't take a country. You only won a football game!" - Dan Dakich Ne supra crepidam)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson