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To: MtnClimber

How does being watched rob a person of their liberty?


3 posted on 01/12/2025 5:29:41 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew (You might be in the wrong place if you miss the sarcasm.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Is that a test question or do you seriously not know?


5 posted on 01/12/2025 5:45:23 AM PST by aspasia
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To: Fester Chugabrew

4th amendment, first part: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated...

Surveillance is a search of sorts - especially when surveilled in normally private settings. With electronic media, including cell phones, the state now has the ability to infiltrate nearly aspect of a citizen’s life.


6 posted on 01/12/2025 5:46:48 AM PST by MortMan (Charter member of AAAAA - American Association Against Alliteration Abuse)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Look at how surveillance fits into the Chinese Social Credit System. They watch and listen to everything 24/7. If you do or say something that the authorities don’t like then they turn off your ability to buy anything, to travel, to walk down the sidewalk.

It is used in Britain to monitor how much people drive.


7 posted on 01/12/2025 5:50:12 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Being “watched” is an intrusion of my freedom...especially being watched by the “state”. Oppositely, the state (and its employees) should be “watched” so as to ensure they are doing what they are supposed to do. Right now the employees of the state are sancrosanct...watching them is deemed as insurrection.

Just ponder how many employees of the state are slackers, goof-offs, malingerers and “independent operators” who do what they want when they want without concern for boundaries of the law.

Many of them call themselves “public servants” when actually they are arrogant agents of destruction, perversion and perversion of law.


8 posted on 01/12/2025 5:51:31 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

How does being watched rob a person of their liberty?
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Depends on the reason we’re being watched. If you’re a movie actress and your being watched on screen or in a social or public setting, that’s different than if your that person being watch doing things of a personal nature in a bathroom or in a bedroom with your significant other! The essence of liberty is the right to privacy, the right to be left alone. Being watched is an invasion of those rights.


10 posted on 01/12/2025 6:16:50 AM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Never forget, the Marxist-Democrats & RINOs who would destroy our country ARE STILL HERE!)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
How does being watched rob a person of their liberty?

If they get in trouble for the action seen . . .?

19 posted on 01/12/2025 9:17:59 AM PST by aspasia
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To: Fester Chugabrew

“How does being watched rob a person of their liberty?”

Others have answered as to “privacy”. The rights against unreasonable searches and presumption of innocence preclude “being watched” when we intend to be private and take reasonable efforts to do so.

However, there is also a public issue with “being watched”. We have the rights of freedom of speech, press, association, assembly, and religion which are protected from punishment even when exercised publicly. We may encounter unwanted targeting by others for exercising our public rights. This might include de-banking, de-platforming, demonetization, or even boycotting (of our businesses, for example). So, an implied right to not be surveilled without consent should exist implicitly to allow us some level of control in exercising our public rights while limiting our exposure and interaction with the public.

For example, I might want to express my conservative opinions on Free Republic without providing the public with personally identifiable information. I may want to post on X without being doxed.


21 posted on 01/12/2025 11:21:05 AM PST by unlearner (Still not tired of winning.)
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