Posted on 12/22/2024 2:30:20 PM PST by BenLurkin
Local media reported that the plane was piloted by Luiz Claudio Galeazzi, a Brazilian businessman who was travelling with his family to Sao Paulo State. In a statement published on LinkedIn, Galeazzi’s company, Galeazzi & Associados, confirmed that the 61-year-old was on the plane, adding that he was traveling with his wife, their three daughters, several other family members and another company employee, who perished in the crash.
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Security cameras filmed the small Piper plane departing from Canela airport in Rio Grande do Sul State, minutes before it crashed in Gramado, which is about 10km from the airport.
Gramado is in the Serra Gaucha mountains and popular with Brazilian tourists who enjoy the cool weather, hiking spots and traditional architecture. The town was settled by large numbers of German and Italian immigrants in the 19th century and is a popular spot for Christmas vacations.
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By the article, the “small Piper” was carrying: a 61yo man, his wife, their three daughters, an employee, and “several others.” That’s nine or ten people. If they had any baggage, that’s all the more weight. Sounds to me like the craft was overloaded.
Yes, what small Piper airplane can carry 10 people or more?
Sounds like somebody had some very bad judgment somewhere.
Tragic for those innocent family members. Sounds like the pilot was way over takeoff weight.
It was a Piper PA-42 1000. Twin Turboprop. Crew 1-2. Pax 6-9.
It could have handled that load theoretically. But it would likely be near max load if not over.
If not over, any engine fault, any climb would be impossible.
So yea, probably an overload condition.
Piper PA-31T Cheyenne III or the Piper Navajo Chieftain (PA-31-350). They aren’t “small” like my PA-22 was. Maybe other models, too.
GETTY Image crash site aerial:
I hope there’s no recording of the pilot yelling allahu ackbar. If so, the authorities will never be able to determine what happened.
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A Piper PA-42-100 Cheyenne 400LS crashed shortly after takeoff from runway 24 at Canela Airport (QCN/SSCN), Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil. The ten occupants perished and the aircraft was destroyed.
Preliminary information indicates the aircraft hit a chimey of a house and came down at a store and a hotel in Gramado, resulting in a post crash fire. Adverse weather conditions prevailed at the time.
If it can carry 10 people it’s not what I would call “a small airplane.”
But that’s “journalists” for you.
The Piper PA-31 Navajo Chieftain seats 10 and is a twin engine. Small, maybe in comparison to a commercial aircraft? But among private pilots it's a pretty big plane.
Or maybe not...
The agency in a post on X said the plane hit the chimney of a home and then the second floor of a building before crashing into a mobile phone shop in a largely residential neighborhood of Gramado. More than a dozen people who were on the ground were taken to hospitals with injuries including smoke inhalation, with two said to be in critical condition.
Weather was not mentioned.
Post 10 mentions adverse weather conditions.
Definitely sounds overloaded.
Didn’t have the surplus power or lift to avoid the structure without stalling.
He may have been running down the runway and V1 came and went before he figured it out. He had to pull up at that point.
I’ve seen it a bunch. Idiots in 172s with a full load of fuel and four guys in the AC. They keep running down the runway - thinking they are going to get up, then run out of room and eat the chain link at the far end.
It happened twice in two months at I65 a couple years ago.
I69.
Autocorrect is a terrible thing!!!
I wonder if this will be covered by Pilot Debrief. Some of the rank stupidity in Gen Aviation is frightening.
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