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Solving The MTA's Fare Evasion Problem
Manhattan Contrarian ^ | 14 Dec, 2024 | Francis Menton

Posted on 12/15/2024 5:35:18 AM PST by MtnClimber

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1 posted on 12/15/2024 5:35:18 AM PST by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

The Alvin Braggs of society are a big part of the problem.


2 posted on 12/15/2024 5:35:45 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: StAntKnee; texas booster

Manhattan Contrarian ping


3 posted on 12/15/2024 5:38:23 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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It’s not free evasion the city has to worry about...

Per AI

Based on the search results, the number of New York subway attacks has fluctuated over the past few years, with some increases and decreases reported. Here are the key statistics:

In 2023, there were 1,120 violent index crimes reported on the subway, compared to 935 in 2019, representing a 20% increase.

From January 1 to March 3, 2024, there were 388 incidents reported on the subway, compared to 343 during the same period in 2023, indicating a 13.1% increase.

In the first quarter of 2024 (January 1 to March 31), there were 538 subway crimes recorded, averaging six crimes per day.

Felony assaults on the subway dropped 11% in early 2024 compared to the previous year (49 vs. 55).

However, attacks on trains that left victims injured jumped 53% from 373 in 2019 to 570 in 2023.


4 posted on 12/15/2024 5:40:27 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Climate Change is Real. Winter, Spring, Summer and Fall.)
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To: MtnClimber

Probably soon be deemed racist to charge a fare to ride.


5 posted on 12/15/2024 5:42:03 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: MtnClimber

Interesting.

How many other places in society is this behavior ingrained?

Why did it start anyway?


6 posted on 12/15/2024 5:43:17 AM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: MtnClimber

Simple solution. Gather statistics, and remove bus stops / close stations where more than 25% of the riders board without paying. Then over several years, move that number down to 5%. Soon they will only be carrying paying riders, they can remove older equipment from service, and lay off the excess employees, reducing costs significantly.


7 posted on 12/15/2024 5:48:07 AM PST by PAR35
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To: Responsibility2nd

I wonder if there is any data on ethnicity of subway crime perpetrators.


8 posted on 12/15/2024 5:49:29 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

On a lighter yet related note, here’s the Kingston Trio’s MTA song:

https://youtu.be/_oaVU0I_oCA?si=irjFZNFkeGm-AzEZ


9 posted on 12/15/2024 5:49:44 AM PST by Leaning Right (It’s morning in America. Again.)
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To: MtnClimber

The FBI would have us believe it’s white Christian MAGA males.


10 posted on 12/15/2024 5:54:18 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Climate Change is Real. Winter, Spring, Summer and Fall.)
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To: MtnClimber

Just start arresting them and the problem is solved.

Kind of like a parent that wonders why their children do not behave. No enforcement.

Put a camera on the styles and an arresting officer around the corner. Keep the cameras and have officers in place as needed.

Make the fines steep enough that they include a transit pass for them in the future.


11 posted on 12/15/2024 5:54:54 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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The researcher should have done their research in Manhattan along the busy east side 1st and 2nd avenue bus routes, instead of intentionally concentrating on a route with many “mostly” black residents. They would have noticed on 1st and 2nd avenue bus routes, which pass through poor, middle class and rich neighborghoods, that “fare beating” on the buses has no dominant “race” or “ethnicity”, all sorts of people do it equally.

The real issue is it does not matter why.

The MTA could have spent the $1 million dollars better by putting MTA officers on the buses, often enough and random enough, stopping fare beaters, and they would have developed psychology in the bus riders that they could get caught any time. Doing something would have been better than asking why.


12 posted on 12/15/2024 5:54:55 AM PST by Wuli
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To: MtnClimber

Get on for free. Pay to get off.


13 posted on 12/15/2024 6:00:06 AM PST by Track9
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To: PAR35

Creating subway and bus (mass transit) deserts. The lib media will scream about that, too.

First they close all the grocery and drug stores in the neighborhood (because of thievery). Now the citizens can’t even catch a ride to a neighborhood where stores are still open!


14 posted on 12/15/2024 6:01:57 AM PST by John Milner (Marching for Peace is like breathing for food.)
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To: MtnClimber

It’s much the same as when activists insist that the judicial system is racist because so many black men are in prison. They ignore the fact that it is black men who commit the majority of violent crimes.

They can’t arrest fare dodgers because the majority of them are black and that would be considered racist.


15 posted on 12/15/2024 6:03:00 AM PST by CFW
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To: MtnClimber

Perhaps linking bus Wi-Fi and subway cell phone service to fare paying might help.


16 posted on 12/15/2024 6:03:08 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: texas booster
Why did it start anyway?...

Started around this era...


17 posted on 12/15/2024 6:06:13 AM PST by C210N (Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.)
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To: texas booster

“Why did it start anyway?”

Many transit systems waived fare collection during the Covid scare.


18 posted on 12/15/2024 6:07:29 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: tired&retired

“....Put a camera on the styles and an arresting officer around the corner....”

Right on!


19 posted on 12/15/2024 6:08:41 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: MtnClimber

I take the bus in LA. People brazenly board the bus without paying, often boarding at the back door to avoid the driver. Yes, virtually all are POC.


20 posted on 12/15/2024 6:09:05 AM PST by Nea Wood ( )
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