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Outlook is poor for those still on Windows Mail, Calendar, People apps by end of year (Legacy apps being killed off this month)
The Register ^ | Dec 3, 2024 | Richard Speed

Posted on 12/04/2024 7:12:11 AM PST by dayglored

We're sure you'll learn to love the new Outlook for Windows app [not]

Microsoft is preparing to kill off the old Windows Mail, Calendar, and People apps by the end of this month and shift users to the Outlook for Windows app.

In November, Microsoft confirmed there would be no reprieve for the apps. It will be possible to export local emails, calendar events, and contacts that users have stored in Mail, Calendar, and People into the new Outlook up until December 31, 2024. After that, however, the ability to send or receive mail will be revoked.

"The new Outlook for Windows is for everyone. Now everyone with Windows gets the best of Outlook built into Windows for free," Microsoft said. AI is also on hand "to help you write impactful, clearer, mistake-free messages."

While it will continue to support "Classic" Outlook, Microsoft wants users to migrate to the new app. One user complained: "I don't need a bloated mail client. Mail and Calendar apps just work. If I need a more fully featured email client, I will just use the Office 365. [B]ut the 'new' Outlook is garbage."

Mail, or Windows Mail, was a follow-up to Outlook Express, so returning to the Outlook branding just might please some even if the implementation is not to everyone's taste. The People app arrived with Windows 8, and it has a confusing co-existence with Contacts, with both sharing some functionality.

The loss of People from Windows might trigger a few memories. Microsoft ditched the original Cardfile application, which was frequently used as a contact manager before the turn of the century. Schedule+ and Outlook Express eventually took over its contact management duties.

The new Outlook is web-based rather than a native Windows application. There is a marked difference in appearance and, according to some users, slower performance.

Still, switching between the old and new experiences had always been possible. Existing users of the three apps have mere weeks to go before either accepting the new Outlook or picking an alternative, such as Thunderbird or Vivaldi's email client. ®


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: mail; microsoft; outlook; windows; windowspinglist
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To: Openurmind
Maybe the password didn't meet MS's standard. They might require at least one each of an uppercase letter, lowercase letter, number and, in most cases, a special character. They may also require a minimum length of a password. They *may* be able to determine this without actually knowing the password. Not trying to give MS a pass here, but this may be a reason for the password failure.

So, "hateMS" may not meet their password standard. I probably would have tried something like "hateMSx1000".

41 posted on 12/04/2024 8:45:36 AM PST by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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To: daniel1212

Can Linux run Scrivener or Final Draft?


42 posted on 12/04/2024 8:46:43 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Your Windows 10 PC will no longer be supported after next October.

Yes, I mentioned that in post #21.

43 posted on 12/04/2024 8:47:08 AM PST by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
I like cloud-based products; they're accessible from any device.

Yes, including by organizations you may not want to see. People are seeing their online photos stolen and posted by someone else as their own. Or certain law enforcement agencies are using facial recognition software with online photos. Post online at your own risk.

44 posted on 12/04/2024 8:51:46 AM PST by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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To: Rio

I agree, although last time I checked Libre Calc isn’t as robust as Excel. What I mean is that, unless something has changed over the past year, Calc doesn’t have as many columns or rows as Excel has, which I think is almost unlimited. I’m going to check again to see if that’s still the case.


45 posted on 12/04/2024 8:54:32 AM PST by ducttape45 (Jeremiah 17:9, "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?")
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To: daniel1212

circle back for more info

thanx


46 posted on 12/04/2024 8:54:45 AM PST by thinden (Buckle up …..)
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To: CatOwner

I’m going to do the same thing. I just reinstalled Linux on all of my PCs and laptop. I’ll have W7, W10 and Linux Mint as my disposal. After financial matters shake out over the next couple of months, I’ll be switching to Linux except in the case of programs on Windows I still need to use (Photoshop CS5 and Acrobat). I know there are Linux equivalents of both, but they aren’t as robust as the Windows products. But otherwise, Windows is going to be used less and less.


47 posted on 12/04/2024 8:57:54 AM PST by ducttape45 (Jeremiah 17:9, "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?")
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To: Openurmind
Passwords are confidential and secret. If they claim to respect privacy and security then how did they know what it was? This means your PC passwords are theirs too. And they do not even own your machine

That's the reason why I hate modern MS operating systems. Everything up to Windows 7 let the user control and OWN their machine and experience. Everything since then does not. I got Windows 7 still installed, and yes I also have Windows 10, but I only use it when I have to. Otherwise, it's now Linux and W7. I'm tired of MicroThief knowing my business.

48 posted on 12/04/2024 9:03:03 AM PST by ducttape45 (Jeremiah 17:9, "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?")
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To: CatOwner

So now I’m supposed to read the other posts before posting willy nilly?


49 posted on 12/04/2024 9:07:53 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: CatOwner

Is your computer connected to the Internet?


50 posted on 12/04/2024 9:08:32 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: daniel1212
That's quite a post. Thank you.

But even if one has a modern Windows O/S, and they have all the tweaks and addons progammed in, it's still Windows. MicroThief still owns your computer and can steal your info at any time. How does one counteract that? Genuinely curious.

51 posted on 12/04/2024 9:08:58 AM PST by ducttape45 (Jeremiah 17:9, "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?")
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To: CatOwner

Speaking of tax preparation software, which one is the best one to use?


52 posted on 12/04/2024 9:10:08 AM PST by ducttape45 (Jeremiah 17:9, "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?")
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To: dayglored

>Outlook is poor

I see what you did there! 😃


53 posted on 12/04/2024 9:10:30 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: dayglored

Netscape Communicator. Wow, a blast from the past, and yes, I always loved using that as well. I can’t stand Firefox though I do use Thunderbird.


54 posted on 12/04/2024 9:11:30 AM PST by ducttape45 (Jeremiah 17:9, "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?")
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To: wafflehouse

Thanks. I might give that a try. I’m so tired of Microsoft. Windows is crap.


55 posted on 12/04/2024 9:18:48 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Allowing foreign criminals to invade, murder and pillage in America is a Democrat "core value.")
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To: Jeff Chandler
Is your computer connected to the Internet?

Yes, and my critical, personal data is on multiple drives disconnected from my PCs. I also have my own firewall and password protection that I control and trust far more than an online cloud service.

56 posted on 12/04/2024 9:22:45 AM PST by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I should also add than Wi-Fi and Bluetooth are disabled on my PCs. Ethernet wake-up is also disable. Yes, I’m paranoid and trust little external to my PCs.


57 posted on 12/04/2024 9:25:22 AM PST by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...
Outlook has always been kinda poor. :^) Check the data export options, and try them all to make sure you have your data in at least one format that your next program can import. That's all I've got, I'm out. :^)

58 posted on 12/04/2024 10:19:38 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: dayglored

They’ve informed me that my (admittedly old) HP PC cannot be upgraded to the latest permutation. Didn’t say why. But support will end next year. I’m not savvy enough to know what effects that will have.


59 posted on 12/04/2024 10:53:06 AM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Finish the damned WALL! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH! )
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To: fwdude
I lost a LOT of saved emails when a service I used went down, and I didn’t have it on my local computer.

I bought Carbonite in 2012 to protect my data. In 2013 I had a crash, losing everything and had to buy a new HP PC. When I asked Carbonite to load the saved data to my new PC they demanded a serial number and passcode which had been lost with everything else. Never got a thing from them.

60 posted on 12/04/2024 11:11:10 AM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Finish the damned WALL! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH! )
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