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The Garden Thread - December, 2024
December 1, 2024 | Diana in WI/Greeneyes in Memoriam

Posted on 11/30/2024 6:46:42 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

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To: Liz

“Did she ever part w/ the recipe?”

Remind me...which recipe are you looking for?


41 posted on 12/01/2024 7:04:58 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Thanks, Pete!


42 posted on 12/01/2024 7:05:20 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The egg nog with the sherry.


43 posted on 12/01/2024 7:06:51 AM PST by Liz (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to RULE. (H.L, Mencken))
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To: Pollard

“A little 401k money came in which is good because [my 301fu money] was running out so it’s almost job hunting time again, mid December, again.”

LOL!

I’m expanding my Asparagus patch this coming season and I want to find a spot for Horseradish, Jerusalem Artichoke and Sorrel.

Here are other perennial veggies/herbs/nuts/fruits to consider:

https://www.smallfootprintfamily.com/20-perennial-vegetables

https://www.thespruce.com/perennial-foods-1388677

We have quite a number of wild Elderberry shrubs within walking distance of the house. The blooms in spring are nice dried and made into tea; just clip them when fully in bloom and put in a paper sack to dry. (Don’t de-nude the entire shrub though, of course! You want berries later, too!) My Aunt Alice taught me that trick. ;)


44 posted on 12/01/2024 7:14:50 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: FRiends

Speaking of using things in the Winter months that we’ve grown/harvested ourselves, here’s what I’m making for supper today - ‘harvested’ from the freezer:

Easy Crock Pot BEAR Burgundy

https://www.eatingonadime.com/easy-crock-pot-beef-burgundy-recipe/#wprm-recipe-container-18444

I’m just substituting bear meat for the beef and I’m going to add mushrooms, too. :)


45 posted on 12/01/2024 7:17:06 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Liz

I have the Eggnog recipe on a recipe card somewhere - but this is exactly the same recipe Lauri’s Mom always made for us, sans the Tequila!

https://www.slightlypretentious.co/best-eggnog-recipe/#recipe


46 posted on 12/01/2024 7:21:51 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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47 posted on 12/01/2024 7:22:41 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

thx


48 posted on 12/01/2024 7:23:24 AM PST by Liz (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to RULE. (H.L, Mencken))
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

I am sorry to read all that. So much TV and other obsessions are additions which are hard to give up. Your sister is right to pray. I will pray for him too. Focusing on so much 2D brain stimuation is terrible for the brain. If we ever do have a communications blackout or long term power disruption people like him are going to go crazy. There’s not a lot you can do.


49 posted on 12/01/2024 7:57:00 AM PST by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Yes its a shot of vitamins and minerals for sure. I found I have to add a cup of water to every quart, it is so strong (not thick) that diluting it makes it taste even better.


50 posted on 12/01/2024 7:58:36 AM PST by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

That sounds yummy with rice??


51 posted on 12/01/2024 8:01:10 AM PST by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: MomwithHope

Yes agreed. (My wife is the one praying for him.... my sister isn’t religious)

I have not wanted to fight someone this much since the chaz/chop mayhem back when I was a Seattle cop and they threw an IED at me.

The without I just got after they left, moving 18 totes of xmas decorations onto the porch for the wife for some of the negative energy out..... hahaha


52 posted on 12/01/2024 8:49:05 AM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (To you all, my loyal spell checkers....nothing but prospect and admiral nation.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I had asparagus growing in a half 55 gal plastic drum but it died off after three years so I need to make a permanent bed somewhere. I’ve got a packet of seeds.

I can get mint and probably horseradish from a neighbor. There are some little wild onions in MO but I haven’t seen any up this way. Saw them 100 miles South of here where we were staying while looking for land.

Luckily, there are a lot of resources here in Missouri.

The George O. White state nursery is one for native trees.

Database listing by the The Missouri Prairie Foundation https://grownative.org/

Missouri Wildflower Nursery https://mowildflowers.net/

They have two wild different onion, a wild garlic and wild leek listed on the front page since they’re all Allium and it’s an alphabetical listing. Eight pages of edible with most available as seed or potted plant — https://mowildflowers.net/benefits/edible/

I don’t know how well it works but I’ve read that you can use wild versions of edible plants around the outer edges as a trap crop to help protect the improved varieties. Supposedly critters like the wild ones better.

A woman named Jan Phillips wrote a book called Wild Edibles of Missouri with listings by flower color and illustrations. She tried every one of them and did not die.

https://mdc.mo.gov/sites/default/files/mo_nature/downloads/page/WildEdibles.pdf

BUT - I really need to get rid of these goats, else I can have none of the above. I haven’t seen an deer lately but I’m sure they’d sneak in here at night of I plant a bunch of edible fruits so I’ll have to do the double deer fence.


53 posted on 12/01/2024 9:12:57 AM PST by Pollard (When life gives you acid soil, make berries.)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Been trying for years to get hazelnuts from the state nursery but they run out within a couple of hours of their website sales opening up.

MO Wildflower is out of stock so I gave my email to be notified when they have some. $7.95 qt or $18.25 gal pot. State nursery is less than $2 ea but that doesn’t matter if they never have any. Paw Paw is another good understory or forest edge edible and also native here. That’s another one the state nursery runs out of in no time or simply doesn’t have some years. I’ve had a spot picked out for them for a while now.

If I just take out all the trees less than 6-8” in diameter, it will be an open woodland and support a multi-level understory.

https://mowildflowers.net/corylus-americana-american-hazelnut-/


54 posted on 12/01/2024 9:56:37 AM PST by Pollard (When life gives you acid soil, make berries.)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
And if you still think it may he me.....

It's not you. I have a nephew like that. In fact, I had the same tv issue. He had something hooked up to the tv. When he was done and everyone but me left to go to town I tried to watch something on the tv while I had some peace and quiet but no, it wouldn't work. When he got back to the house I said "fix the tv and next time you have that box hooked to it put it back the way it was when you are done". Happened twice in the same visit.

He's also, IMO, a bit of a grifter. Last time I heard from him (4 years ago) was when I said a firm "NO" to one of his grifting ideas. He was trying to get me to convince his Dad (my brother) and my other brother to his "great idea" of how to use a sizeable family asset, to his financially advantage of course.

55 posted on 12/01/2024 10:10:09 AM PST by Oorang (Politicians:-a feeble band of lowly reptiles who shun the light and who lurk in their own dens. )
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Chestnut - 3-5 years to produce. Just have to make sure they’re chestnut blight resistant but I think those are all that’s left.


56 posted on 12/01/2024 10:46:10 AM PST by Pollard (When life gives you acid soil, make berries.)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission; Diana in Wisconsin

Gawd I love Missouri AG extension Service

https://www.chestnutimprovementnetwork.com/ — By the University of Missouri Center for Agroforestry

$14 per plant is better than $60-100 that Stark Bros wants.


57 posted on 12/01/2024 11:56:22 AM PST by Pollard (When life gives you acid soil, make berries.)
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To: Pollard

The gray powder on the surface of the plums is a wild yeast which can be used to start sourdough or make wine. To use wild plums to create a sourdough follow these steps:

Step 1. On day 1 combine 1 cup whole wheat flour with 1/2 cup cool, non-chlorinated water, and 4-6 undamaged, gray-dusted wild plums in a bowl and gently stir together. Cover with a towel and let sit somewhere warm and undisturbed.

Step 2. After 24 hours discard half the mixture but leaving the plums in the retained portion. Add 1 cup unbleached flour and 1/2 cup non-chlorinater water. Gently mix everything. Cover with a towel, let sit somewhere warm for 24 hours.

Step 3. By now (day 3) you may see some bubbling in your starter and it'll hopefully have a somewhat fruity scent. If the starter is bubbling it's time to remove the plums. You'll also have to start "feeding" it twice a day. For each feeding scoop up heaping 1/4 cup of the starter and combine it with 1 cup unbleached flour and 1/2 cup non-chlorinated water about every 12 hours. Unused starter should be shared or discarded.

Step 4. Keep repeating Step 3 for 3-7 days until it almost doubles in size between feedings and has a nice, tangy aroma.

Step 5. Start making sourdough breads! Move unused sourdough starter to the fridge, discarding half and feeding it 1 cup flour and 1/2 cup water once a day. If you don't remove some starter every day it'll overrun your container and also likely become too acidic, killing itself.

https://www.foragingtexas.com/2009/07/plum-wild.html

58 posted on 12/01/2024 12:24:44 PM PST by Pollard (When life gives you acid soil, make berries.)
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To: MomwithHope

Found some egg noodles hiding in the back of the pantry. Gonna use those up. It’s smelling really good in the kitchen. :)

I also used up the last two apples from our trees and made an Apple Cake today.

https://www.101cookingfortwo.com/easy-apple-cake-scratch/

I am in ‘use-it-up’ mode before the New Year hits. :)

I need to make a list and make sure I have everything on hand for cookie baking. I am giving a nice assortment as gifts this season. I did stock up on butter at $2.99/# a few weeks back. Stashed 6 pounds in the freezer.


59 posted on 12/01/2024 12:33:22 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Pollard

I have a ‘raccoon raid’ on the garden every once in a great while and the Chippies like to dig up freshly planted seeds/seedlings at times. The deer seem to stay away - probably because of all the dogs we have.

You can only do what you can do, depending upon circumstances. Having to help fix fences all around our property, fencing a garden is the LAST thing I want to have to do, so I’ll just complain when something bad happens, LOL!

Beau just told me our east fence line is in pretty rough shape. There’s one or more trees down on it. I suspect he’s breaking the news to me NOW so he can hitch me to the plow come Spring. ;)


60 posted on 12/01/2024 12:38:27 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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