[imardmd1]

Regarding your comment(s) on "Iberia": That is very interesting, and curious, for in the First Book of the Torah בראשׁית (Bereshith; Genesis in English) is first mentioned עבר ('eber) the antecedent of all the (H)eber(ew) race, of whom the Judaites, our "Jews" of today, are descendants (as also are all the Arab descendants of Abraham and Ishmael, all Shemites, as was Eber). So one might presume that the area just east of the Black Sea, the location of Mount Ararat, where Noah's Ark with his sons, landed after the Great Flood, is relevant to the topic of this article.

But of that area, displayed by Cronos in the map he shows to us here (Post #26), there is another map of the same features, but placing Ararat and the beginning of the Euphrates River (also mentioned even earlier in the Genesis account of history) right smack in the middle of Iberia/Armenia!

Did not all tribes thereafter originate from this region after the confusion of languages, of which the Hebrew/Aramaic(Armenian) language was the first of all, the same language in which the Mighty God conversed with Adam and Eve?

Doesn't this go toward supporting the theory of Armenia and naming one of the predominant features of water and its life-bearing elements in recognition of the Antecedent (Eber) of their own well-known antiquity?

Thus his name is yet remembered until our day, to be retold and celebrated of God's blessing to preserve a source of holiness for us to consider?

You do know that Abraham was born in the Ur of the Chaldees^{Aramites=Armenians} (which is the SanliUrFa [not far from the Chaldean/Caucasian mountains]. This "Ur" ias just above Harran*, within a day's walk of Gobekli Tepe; not the "Ur" near the end of the Euphrates which Leonard Wooley proposed (I presume) to advance his own fame as a Biblical archaeologist. He theorized that his "Ur" was the one from which Abram was guided south to inherit the land of the depraved Canaanites that fell out of favor with the Tetragrammaton. But I think not, and s does anciently recorded history.

(can't find a good map for this
so let's just finish)

This is all just fascinating, tantalizing to the one who wants to know history from God's point of view.

I have also read that the Basques of Spain/Eber(/) and people of Georgia (contains Mideast Iberia) languages are quite uniquely similar. Hmmm.

So much more to this . . .

But thanks for your hints, my FRiends! May they bear fruit for us all!

[Kudsman]

Surely a coincidence. Until one day an ideology comes along to rewire all those dispersed languages. Miraculously, all these new languages tell people that God is dead, or he is a head chopping zealot. I'm sorry, I rebel.

[Cronos]

we need to remember that the first book of the Torah is to explain to simple people how God created such a complex world.

The Israelites, in genetic and linguistic terms were a sub-set of Canaanites. And the Canaanites were a sub-set of the wider Afro-asiatic group - that includes Berbers, ancient Egyptians, Ethiopians and Sudanese (Cushites)

Or a more comprehensive look at the language family tree

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[Cronos]

Hebrew is not Aramaic. They are "cousin languages" -- Hebrew has and had more in common and in comprehensibility with Ammonite, Moabite, Phoenician etc.

Armenian is nowhere near Aramaic or Hebrew - they are not at all mutually comprehensible and are as distant as Hungarian is from Italian

[Cronos]

Doesn't this go toward supporting the theory of Armenia and naming one of the predominant features of water and its life-bearing elements in recognition of the Antecedent (Eber) of their own well-known antiquity?

I don't know what you are trying to say

There is no Eber river - there is the "EbRO" which is in Spain, but I don't know if you are referring to that. And the name Ebro seems derived from the Basque word "Ibar" meaning valley or watered meadow

The land of what is now western Syria, west of the Euphrates was called Eber-nari (or land on the other side of the river)

[Cronos]

You do know that Abraham was born in the Ur of the ChaldeesAramites=Armenians

Note that Chaldeans were not "Aramites" nor "Arameans". Chaldeans were probably proto-AramAIC speakers (a WEST semitic langauge) who came to Meopotomia around the 10th cneutry BC.

Prior to that there lived EAST Semitic Akkadian speaking Assyrians and BAbylonians

Armenians are not Assyrians, nor Aramaic peoples but are Indo-Europeans, closer related to Persians

[Cronos]

Ur is one of the more ancient SUMERIAN cities - the Sumerians were related to Elamites and Tamils (so a “proto-Dravidian”) people.

In the Sumerian kinglists from 4000 BC we have

When kingship from heaven was lowered,
the kingship was in Eridu
In Eridug, Alulim became king;
he ruled
for 28800 years.
Alaljar ruled for 36000 years

Eridu is one of the earliest settlements in the region, founded c. 5400 BC during the early Ubaid period, at that time close to the Persian Gulf near the mouth of the Euphrates

Ur is probably just a few decades younger and has archeological information from around the 5000 BC mark

[Cronos]