Posted on 11/14/2024 1:01:43 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
The information they have presented stands on it's own merits and does not rely on their credibility.
The people at Comet Pizza were engaging in bizarre communications which Occam's razor implies them to be strongly interested in child molestation.
The parts the Pizzageter's got wrong does not sweep away the information they presented which is correct.
They spread the kids in the basement story. There is no basement. How did they get that wrong? The answer is real easy: they didn’t know even basic physical facts of the story that they were spreading.
My recollection is that they had information about underground tunnels, but nothing in what I saw pinned the location at Comet Pizza. It may have been an assumption that turned out to be wrong. I recall seeing pictures of brick lined tunnels.
But none of this detracts from the fact that the behavior of the Comet Pizza people and their clients, is most easily explained by assuming an advocacy for sex grooming of children.
Did you look at that little bit of "art" I showed you? Is there a rational explanation for displaying such things in your place of business?
There was another glaring problem with their story. Kids have names. Missing kids have names. The Pizzagaters never came up with even one name of any kid supposedly held captive at Comet Ping Pong.
I don't consider that to be as significant as you do. My wife loves to watch all these grotesque murder mystery videos on Youtube, and there are numerous examples of serial killers getting away with killing people for years, and we often do not know the names of victims until after they are caught.
Here is an example. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Pickton If I recall correctly, he fed his victims to the pigs, and there was no trace left of them.
Like all good conspiracy theories, it conveniently lacked any evidence that could be tested.
The evidence that the patrons and staff at Comet Pizza kept sending signals that they were interested in very dark sexual stuff with children is unequivocal. The question is whether this rose to the level of a crime.
There is no proof of a crime, but there is certainly a lot of proof that what they advocated would be considered crimes if they acted on their predilections.
Well, there was one testable claim: the basement, which turned out not to exist at all.
It was this bit that was seized upon by the entire media-lie-system to proclaim the entire thing was bogus. I personally don't trust their judgement or integrity, and whether or not there is a basement in Comet Pizza, it does not address the peculiar behavior and statements by the patrons and the staff.
As with others, the media-liars either rejected, or refused to look at the statements made by the people surrounding Comet Pizza indicating they were very much into dark, kinky, criminal stuff.
Funny how that worked out. Too bad that the NC guy who went there to free the kids didn’t know what a bunch of irresponsible buffoons he was listening to.
The people here at Free Republic speculate about many things in the course of discussing various topics. People weigh the evidence and try to ascertain the most reasonable interpretation for what they can see. Often they are wrong.
There was information presented about underground rooms and tunnels. I saw it. The assumption was that it was located at Comet Pizza. So far as we have been told, this is incorrect.
Comet Pizza tells us they have no basement, and have never had a basement, so unless they've walled it up, then wherever they got the images of the tunnels and rooms, it was not from Comet Pizza.
The assumption was wrong. Doesn't change the fact of all the other weird and twisted behavior surrounding the people involved in this topic.
Podesta's emails and behavior are extremely peculiar on their own merits.
(IMHO)Mr. Robinson barred INFOWARS because he understood exactly what was being done to AJ and, having already undergone a lawsuit against FR, knew that the powers that be would love nothing more than having an excuse to take down Free Republic as well as INFOWARS.
This.
Did Nick Sandmann end up shutting down Washington post and CNN for their defamation case against him? What they did was a lot worse than anything Jones did since they could have potentially ruined an innocent kids life and his ability to even get a job later on.
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Re: 100 - Yes, Pizzagate. Pushed by some kooks on the Internet who were jackassin’ about claims they could not back up.
Not really surprising.
You probably believe Trump colluded with Russia too.
He admitted they got duped.
Did the New York Times admit they got duped about "RUSSIA COLLUSION" and return their Pulitzer Prize?
The Deep State has been desperate for years to shut Jones down because he has exposed so much of what they are up to. He was the beta test for the lawfare and weaponized court system that they then used on President Trump.
President Donald John Trump, Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, General Michael Flynn, Russell Brand, Elon Musk, Naomi Wolf, Lara Logan, Steven Crowder, Stephen K. Bannon, Mike Judge, Rosanne Barr, Javier Milei and many more credit Alex Jones with waking them up to the global billionaire psychos and their genocidal plans.
But, unlike those people, you are too smart to ever forget the mistakes he made and use them as justification to totally disregard the truths he exposed.
Seems like you have more contempt for a voice crying in the wilderness who has actually broken real news for thirty years who admits he is wrong once in a while than you do for the gaslight press that only ever tells lies and never admits it.
I don’t recall that anyone sued Jones over his 9-11 statements.
Is Lara Logan a 'Q' person?
Investigative Journalist Lara Logan Joins Alex Jones To Defend Freedom Of Speech (Nov 15, 2024)
The second of Unum’s links goes to a paper by a Richard Gage, AIA. That’s the American Institute of Architects which Gage does belong to.
But it seems that his fellow architects weren’t happy being associated with 9-11 Truther lunacy:
Architects Shy From Trutherism
Architects didn’t show up for a 9/11-architecture-conspiracy documentary screening—and the AIA doesn’t want its name associated with Trutherism.
By Jeremy Stahl
The boardroom at the Washington, D.C., headquarters of the American Institute of Architects is an impressive place: Beautiful concentric wooden desks, with microphones in front of every seat, encircle a small central dais, offering the impression that important discussions are had here. “It feels like the United Nations,” a guest recently commented.
This room recently served as a peculiar venue for the 23rd stop on the 30-city “world premiere tour” of AIA member Richard Gage’s new film 9/11: Explosive Evidence—Experts Speak Out: Final Edition.
Since 2006, Gage has been traveling all over the world under the banner of his organization, Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth—an organization that has no affiliation with the AIA, express or otherwise—to preach the theory that the Twin Towers and 7 World Trade Center were actually brought down by explosives on September 11, 2001, and not the impact of two hijacked jetliners and the resulting fires and debris.
What was even more surreal than the late June screening location for his latest presentation of this argument, though, was hearing the types of speeches that accompany such an absurd event be given in such an austere room.
“I had to be dragged kicking and screaming into believing that our government and the Israeli government, the Israeli Mossad, could be responsible for the Twin Towers demolition,” one member of the DC chapter of 911truth.org declared from the AIA-emblazoned podium.
“At least three firefighters in New York at Ground Zero who came upon a large store of gold at the Twin Towers were executed by FBI… every official story turns out to be a lie,” another local activist said to applause.
Gage feigned to distance his organization, the Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, from these remarks, calling the gold story “related” to his work but less “helpful” to its mission than his “irrefutable scientific evidence” that the skyscrapers were brought down by explosives.
The AIA itself, however, is firm about its relationship with Gage. “We don’t have any relationship with his organization whatsoever,” Scott Frank, head of media relations for the AIA, told me.
The former employee of the Walnut Creek, Calif.-based architectural firm Akol & Yoshii is a full-time 9/11 conspiracy theorist, but Gage tries to maintain a façade of being a scientist asking scientific questions. He does his best to avoid the murkier political questions of who could have orchestrated a conspiracy theory and cover-up of the size and scope that the 9/11 conspiracy movement alleges, but his technical views are actually quite mainstream within the Truth movement.
https://www.architectmagazine.com/design/architects-shy-from-trutherism_o
One thing about conspiracy nuttism- it’s the gift that keeps on giving. Better than the circus.
They know better than to be associated with truth that will make them the target of lawfare.
I’ve seen other videos from architectural and engineering groups showing that it happened naturally from the heat and weakening of the structure.
(What the ‘truthers’ have never convinced me of is the reason why it would have been an ‘inside job’ in the first place. It makes no sense.)
Just because someone is on a news show doesn’t mean they aren’t excessively credulous on some subjects.
Lara has been the object of the same brand of criminal lawfare/cancel culture as Alex Jones, so I would say she has some credulity on the subject.
I meant credibility.
President Donald John Trump, Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, General Michael Flynn, Russell Brand, Elon Musk, Naomi Wolf, Lara Logan, Steven Crowder, Stephen K. Bannon, Mike Judge, Rosanne Barr, Javier Milei and many more credit Alex Jones with waking them up to the global billionaire psychos and their genocidal plans.
Are all those people "excessively credulous?"
“I’ve seen other videos from architectural and engineering groups showing that it happened naturally from the heat and weakening of the structure.”
The loss of tensile strength doomed them. Steel loses tensile strength at temperatures far below its melting point. Temperatures easily achieved by uncontrolled fires of jet fuel and/or furnishings. The towers had both. Building 7’s water supply failed and its fires raged uncontrolled for hours until it too collapsed.
The Truthers make all sorts of stupid claims. They operate on the “if it sounds good to me it must be true” theory combined with a “if I repeat it often enough it becomes fact” chaser.
The “no buildings have ever collapsed like the WTC and Building 7” claim is one of my favorites. That, and “jet fuel doesn’t burn hot enough to melt steel”. I hope that they never abandon those two gems of Truther wisdom. Otherwise I’ll be deprived of a lot of cheap entertainment.
While I am disappointed, I can understand your reluctance to do so, but I had wished you would have answered that one question I asked you about the art work being displayed in Come Pizza.
Did you look at it?
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