General Chat Thread

Agreed.

NICE!

Fair enough. But now the election is over the Debbie Downers and trolls don’t have much reason to be here.

But I do have that tingling feeling that another ZOT storm is coming. (Not directed toward you.)

Just curious: Is the end of your tag “/!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)” meant to mean something or just a random string of things? Because it decrypts to a particularly interesting set of numbers.

I wonder if that happened in NV, too?

AZs ballot dump was spread out, over several days, it appears.

Yeah, I had heard that in Nevada, Arizona, and Wisconsin, more people voted for the Senate race than for President.

Definitely looks suspicious.

I loved that game! Nice time killer when waiting for clients to get me info.

QBert ROCKS!

They understood we were watching the big races. But they countered with a slightly more sophisticated op on the smaller ones IMHO. Trump’s win was TOO BIG TO RIG. Some of the down ballot? Well, we are seeing that happen in front of our eyes.

The people on our side are still a step or two behind on these kinds of ops IMHO.

https://x.com/thatsKAIZEN/status/1856142457622409584
Kaizen D. Asiedu gives a good explanation on X
11/11/2024 Voice Typed

If you’re like I was in 2016, you might feel shocked and even horrified by the fact that Trump was just elected president. Again, you might be thinking, damn, half the country is crazy. But this is an opportunity to either, well, continue believing that half the country is crazy or to get curious about their perspective.In this video, I’m gonna breakdown one of the reasons that people don’t like Trump, which is the fact that he’s a convicted felon. And I’m gonna invite you to look deeper into what he was actually convicted of a felony for. And my hope here is even if you’re not excited about supporting Trump, and even if you still think that his supporters are misguided, you can at least.To understand the perspective that they’re coming from and bring more curiosity between both camps.

First, here’s the actual felony Trump was convicted of 34 counts of falsifying business records in order to influence the outcome of the 2016 election. Specifically, Trump paid $130,000 to an adult film actress named Stormy Daniels. Stormy Daniels, in October of 2016, was about to go public, claiming that she and Trump had.Allegedly had an affair. This was a month before the 2016 election and the Trump team paid her $130,000 as hush money. Now to be clear, what’s illegal is not paying her hush money. What was illegal was classifying that hush money as a legal expense instead of a campaign finance contribution.

The way this case even started was.With Michael Cohen, who’s Trump’s ex lawyer. Michael Cohen was being investigated separately for issues like tax evasion and fraud, and in the course of that investigation, authorities found evidence that he had been complicit in paying Stormy Daniels that money and misclassifying it as a legal expense originally in January and February of 2018. Michael.Claimed that he made these payments to Stormy Daniels without Trump’s knowledge. However, once Cohen was found guilty in August of that same year, he revised his story in order to take a plea deal, and then he claimed that he made those payments at Trump’s direction.

Now, it’s important to note that falsifying business records in New York State itself isn’t necessarily a felony. The argument for this being a felony was that the payments were made in an attempt to influence the outcome of the 2016 election, and that’s what elevated what might be a misdemeanor into a felony.Contribution as a legal expense. He’s a felon. He should go to jail. He shouldn’t be running for president. But proponents of Trump have a very different view of the subject. And I want to invite you to consider the context and just get curious about, could you see the rationale here?

The argument goes like this. Big tech, media, and the legal system have all been consistently weaponized against Trump over the last 10 years since he announced that he’s running for office. Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube all banned Trump for a period of around 2 years, and during that time Trump did not have.Ability to speak without. Proponents would argue that this led to Big Tech actually censoring stories that would help Trump in his campaign against Biden, like the Hunter Biden laptop story. Proponents would also point out that the majority of mainstream media was incredibly negative about Trump, and still is to this day.Deprioritizing positive stories about Trump and exaggerating or completely misrepresenting negative stories about him.

That’s the most infamous example of this is a very fine people hoax in which people continue to allege to this day that Donald Trump was trying to imply that white supremacists are very fine people, even though if you watch the full clip, he says exactly the opposite.

Trump:
And you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were.Very fine people on both sides. And you had people, and I’m not talking about the neo Nazis and the white nationalists because they should be condemned totally, but you had many people in that group other than neo Nazis and white nationalists.

Kaizen D. Asiedu:
OK, but it’s one thing to say that Big Tech and the mainstream media have been prejudice against Trump. It’s another thing entirely to say that the legal system itself has been weaponized against Trump and what people call law fair. In order to evaluate this claim, we need to consider the context of this particular case and other cases that are similar but have different outcomes versus important to consider this fact the legal system is not.Objective. It strives for objectivity, but it’s inherently subjective because it involves humans. Humans are interpreting the facts of the case and determining an outcome. Humans are determining what cases even get prosecuted in the 1st place. Many people would point out that Trump has been hit with over 100 different lawsuits since he started running for president.Incurred 100 million to $200 million of legal fees in his own defense

when we look. The Stormy Daniels case It’s worth considering the following facts First, the case wasn’t prosecuted until 2023, close to when Trump was running for office again, rather than closer to 2018, when the facts of the case were originally discovered. The case itself was prosecuted in one of the most blue districts in the nation, Manhattan, and it was also prosecuted by.District Attorney Alvin Bragg, who is a registered Democrat and is also funded by a pack called Color of Change, which is funded by George Soros, one of the biggest Democratic donors. Proponents of Trump also argue that the statute of limitations on the Stormy Daniels case was originally not long enough to permit the case and there were changes.The law made while Trump was in office that made the case go from invalid to valid and within the statute of limitations.

There was also an unprecedented novel legal strategy employed in the case. As I mentioned before, falsifying business records at a state level is not necessarily a felony. What made it a felony was tying it to the outcome of a federal election. So basically what happened is the prosecution, which was against Trump, tried the case.At a state level, but they tied it to a federal election outcome, making it easier to classify the case as a felony rather than a misdemeanor.

The reason this is relevant is hard to understand if we just get technical, so I’m going to compare this to another real life example. Do you guys remember John Edwards? John Edwards was a Democratic presidential candidate running in the early 2000s. While he was running for president, it started to come to light that he had had an extramarital affair that had resulted in the woman.Who he was having an affair with getting pregnant. In order to suppress this story, John Edwards paid her a hush money payment as well. However, John Edwards was never convicted of a felony, and the rationale in that case was that he was making the payment to save himself in personal embarrassment rather than influence the election results.

That rationale was accepted in the John Edwards case, but it was not accepted in the Donald Trump case, which is why Donald Trump was hit with a felony, but John Edwards was not. Supporters of Trump will claim that Trump is being held to a double standard relative to other politicians. Specifically, they point to the fact that Hillary Clinton was involved in perpetuating a hoax about.Donald Trump colluding with the Russians to steal the 2016 election.

Hillary and others:
You can run the best campaign. You could even become the nominee. And you can have the election stolen from you.You win with Russian interference, though, that’s the real thing about 20-20, but rightly ‘cause I think he’s an illegitimate president that didn’t really win. So how do you, you know, fight against that? In 2020? You are absolutely right. Trump and actually win the election. In 2016, he lost the election and he was put in the office because the Russians interfere and despite the fact that they argue.

Kaizen D. Asiedu:
That’s a much more severe crime than him paying money to Stormy Daniels. Hillary Clinton has never been prosecuted for that. It also points to cases against Joe Biden never getting prosecuted. Like for example the Hunter Biden laptop story, which if true implicates Joe Biden in corruption, or the Tara Reid situation which if true implicates Joe Biden in sexual assault.

They would also point out that.Government itself was involved in censoring people on Twitter from promoting the Hunter Biden laptop story. So As for these reasons, big tech interference, media bias and law fair that people who supported Trump looked at his felony as actually strengthening conviction that the world was arranged against them they needed.Support Trump even harder.

1/2 of the country views his felony conviction as justice being served and the law system finally working to convict someone who they view as a bad man. The other half of the country views this as evidence of a swap that needs to be drained and they view this as a result of collusion between media, big tech, and the legal system to.Whatever they can to keep Trump out of office.

And thus we have the duality of perception. Some people look at this mug shot and see a felonist thug. Other people see a freedom fighter who is fighting the exact system that they’re voting to overthrow. As I’ve made abundantly clear my other videos, I voted for Trump in 2024. I also voted against him in 2016 and 2020.So I want you to consider this perspective. Legalities and felony versus misdemeanor aside, does what Trump did in this particular case actually strike you as a major ethical breach?

Does him paying $130,000 to a porn star the month before an election to get her to not talk strike you as.Qualifying of someone holding the office of the presidency.

They might be other things that you point to as disqualifying. I’m just asking, in this particular case, does this actually feel like justice? Going through due process and being served? It’s very easy to fixate on the flaws of the person who’s having the finger pointed at them.And Trump has had the collective finger be pointed at him for damn near a decade now. But eventually one has to start to wonder, why is so much time, energy and money being spent across tech, media, legal system and the government to attack Trump?He’s been cancelled, he’s been convicted and he’s almost been killed.

So eventually one has to stop just fixating on the person who’s having the finger pointed at them and start to consider who’s doing the pointing.

“The trolls sure have quieted down here of late.”

Busy eating crow.

“I’m gonna breakdown one of the reasons that people don’t like Trump, which is the fact that he’s a convicted felon.”

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WOOOOOOOOOMP /buzzer sound

The Trump haters hated Trump way before the lawfare kicked in.

Trump haters just needed excuses. Such as “mean tweets”, which were really just digs on people who, if the roles were reversed, the Trump-haters would be cheering about the same tweets.

You have otherwise intelligent people who, from an early beginning, already had the proclivity to dislike the republican candidate because of their personal politics, and from then on forward, were given a thousand reasons to validate their growing levels of SELECTIVE OUTRAGE

Soooo....any counties or states out there planning inauguration parties? We did it in our Oregon county in 2016. It was a blast.

the Undead Thread is a chat thread...

The Undead Thread is probably still undead.

LOL!

OK ...

Has Bette Midler chugged Drano yet?

Have Alec Baldwin, Whoopi Goldberg, John Legend, Chrissy Teigen, Rob Reiner, Barbara Streisand, Cher, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Megan Rapinoe, Tom Hanks, Amy Schumer, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Lady Gaga, Taylor Swift, Bill Gates, Jane Fonda, Madonna, Mark Ruffalo, Kim Kardashian, Bruce Springsteen, George Clooney, Hunter Biden, Oprah, Robert De Niro, Samuel L. Jackson, Miley Cyrus, Travis Kelce, Bobbi Althoff, Rashida Tlaib, Stormy Daniels, Anthony Fauci, George Soros, Diddy, Eminem, Ellen DeGeneres, Sean Penn, Sharon Stone, Ashley Judd, Tommy Lee, Bryan Cranston, Billie Joe Armstrong, and Bono left America yet?

They promised!

Again, you might be thinking, damn, half the country is crazy.

No. Only the ones who voted for a cackling communist abortionist perverted slut.

And as usual they LIED.