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Why Was There a Broad Drop-Off in Democratic Turnout in 2024?
The New York Times ^ | Nov. 11, 2024 Updated 3:17 p.m. ET | Michael C. Bender

Posted on 11/11/2024 1:00:32 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

Voters in liberal strongholds across the country, from city centers to suburban stretches, failed to show up to vote for Vice President Kamala Harris at the levels they had for Joseph R. Biden Jr. four years earlier, contributing significantly to her defeat by Donald J. Trump, according to a New York Times analysis of preliminary election data.

The numbers help fill in the picture of Mr. Trump’s commanding victory, showing it may not represent the resounding endorsement of his agenda that the final Electoral College vote suggests. Mr. Trump won the White House not only because he turned out his supporters and persuaded skeptics, but also because many Democrats sat this election out, presumably turned off by both candidates.

Counties with the biggest Democratic victories in 2020 delivered 1.9 million fewer votes for Ms. Harris than they had for Mr. Biden. The nation’s most Republican-heavy counties turned out an additional 1.2 million votes for Mr. Trump this year, according to the analysis of the 47 states where the vote count is largely complete.

The drop-off spanned demographics and economics. It was clear in counties with the highest job growth rates, counties with the most job losses and counties with the highest percentage of college-educated voters. Turnout was down, too, across groups that are traditionally strong for Democrats — including areas with large numbers of Black Christians and Jewish voters.

The decline in key cities, including Detroit and Philadelphia, made it exceptionally difficult for Ms. Harris to win the battlegrounds of Michigan and Pennsylvania.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2020; 2024; dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; electionfraud; fakenews; mediawingofthednc; michaelcbender; newyorkslimes; nonexistentvoters; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; presstitutes; smearmachine; stopthesteal; tds; tdsimbeciles; trump
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To: gw-ington
There's no clear evidence of 15M stuffed fake ballots & tons of rigged voting machines in 2020. If there were, you'd think Republican politicians would wave that evidence in the face of Americans and say, "Here it is, indisputable proof!"

How would they do that? Our political enemies control the airwaves. I've seen more than enough proof to convince me the election was stolen, and I would love to wave that evidence in the face of Americans, but the media-liars control the broadcasting systems and won't let such stuff be shown.

201 posted on 11/15/2024 8:06:00 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: gw-ington

You’re a troll


202 posted on 11/15/2024 10:08:37 PM PST by wardaddy (IFREE J6ers JAIL LIZ CHENEY! COMEY CLAPPER BRENNAN and so on)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Prolly a paid op poster
Plenty here

The Borg is everywhere


203 posted on 11/15/2024 10:09:45 PM PST by wardaddy (IFREE J6ers JAIL LIZ CHENEY! COMEY CLAPPER BRENNAN and so on)
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To: gw-ington
LOL

Dem politicians love your naïveté!

204 posted on 11/16/2024 1:23:51 AM PST by Chgogal (To paraphrase Biden: You vote Democrat? Then you ain't smart. )
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To: Responsibility2nd
It's a verifiable fact that you molest small farm animals. And there are links to prove it. But as you say, I'm to lazy to look them up. So you'll have to.

Hey great, more childish personal insults from you and your few foul-mouthed troll pals, simply because I have an opinion that differs from yours on one specific topic. (We likely agree on a vast number of things regarding politics, so I find this humorous at how you're going haywire on this one topic. Too funny.) Your continuous ad hominems show you're totally incapable or unwilling to support your lame, unsubstantiated so-called "argument" or claim (or whatever you want to call it). You're a great credit to conservative Republicans ... not. Assuming you consider yourself a conservative Republican.

I'll try again: It seems apparent that you and/or your few fellow foul-mouthed troll pals on this thread have backed away from your cadre's claim that Democrats stuffed "500,000" fake ballots in ballot boxes and rigged lots of voting machines as part of their 2020 Election steal. So, if you're no longer claiming that, then what exactly are you claiming about how Democrats stole the 2020 Election? I don't expect you or your few fellow foul-mouthed trolls to rationally respond with a reasonable response regarding what you actually think happened in 2020. You and your fellow troll pals' obvious goal is try to gang up on me with endless, non-stop insults. Given that I couldn't care less what you think about me, you'll have to try another one of your lame Democrat-esque tactics.

As the infamous Rodney King might say, Why can't we conservative Republicans get along? ... especially given that we just had a landslide Republican win. It seems you folks are trying to out-obnoxious each other regarding this specific topic on this thread.

205 posted on 11/16/2024 10:35:47 AM PST by gw-ington (Congratulations to President Trump #45 & #47 and Vice President-Elect J.D. Vance!)
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To: MinorityRepublican
I don't have hard evidence. Just a hypothesis. We do know that there was covid in 2020. Democrats took advantage of the crisis to enact universal mail ballots for all states in 2020. It wasn't like that this time.

Thank you for your response. After those few trolls on this thread kept launching their personal insults at me (for no reason), I appreciate your answer that it's a hypothesis that Democrats stuffed 500,000 (or whatever number) fake ballots in ballot boxes and rigged voting machines. I often say it's possible Democrats created fake ballots and rigged machines but there's no hard evidence four years later. Republican politicians who appeared on Fox and CNN/MSNBC (etc.) for the last four years also see no hard evidence, otherwise they'd have waved that evidence in front of CNN/MSNBC interviewers. If Republicans ever uncover evidence of 2020 fake ballots and rigged machines, I'd love to see it. My view is Democrats stole 2020 by everything else they did.

The few maniacal trolls who've been frantically bashing me on this thread are too lazy to look up my many posts on this forum (since Nov 2020) in which I spelled out how Democrats stole 2020. I'll just give one tidbit here from those old posts: Democrat power-brokers directed the year-long violent Black Lives Matter/Antifa thug mob nationwide riots in 2020. Democrats' objective was to make the Trump Administration look extremely "chaotic" to voters, and literally all Democrats blamed Trump for the nationwide chaos that Democrats perpetrated. That's the typical Democrat tactic: Perpetrate something bad against America, then blame your political opponent for what you're guilty of perpetrating.

To further make my point, then-VP nominee Kamala even went on Colbert's show in the summer of 2020 and told Colbert (paraphrased): "The [BLM/Antifa] 'protesters' will not stop, Stephen, they will not stop before the election, and they won't stop after the election, and they should not stop." You could see that even the far-left Colbert was stunned by VP nominee Kamala's full enthusiastic public support of the violent Black Lives Matter wild thug mob rioters. That's hard evidence that the Democrat Party fully supported the year-long extremely violent BLM/Antifa wild thug mob riots. On top of that, even though VP nominee Kamala publicly said her violent BLM/Antifa rioters should continue violently rioting nationwide after the election, I knew their Democrat riots would instantly stop if Potato46/kommieLa were declared the election "winner." Of course, that's what happened -- and the violent BLM/Antifa wild thug mob riots instantly stopped, exactly as I predicted. That's just one of the many things Democrats perpetrated against America to steal the 2020 election.

206 posted on 11/16/2024 11:23:02 AM PST by gw-ington (Congratulations to President Trump #45 & #47 and Vice President-Elect J.D. Vance!)
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To: gw-ington
I'll just give one tidbit here from those old posts: Democrat power-brokers directed the year-long violent Black Lives Matter/Antifa thug mob nationwide riots in 2020. Democrats' objective was to make the Trump Administration look extremely "chaotic" to voters, and literally all Democrats blamed Trump for the nationwide chaos that Democrats perpetrated.

They couldn't do that again because we've seen that script already in 2020.

Also, I'll like to add, Hunter Biden's laptop (by New York Post) was a big story. But the Feds forced Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg to crack down on the story in October 2020.

That's election interference. As a result of that, Jack Dorsey sold out and he's probably in Tahiti right now spaced out due to whatever stuff he's using.

Mark Zuckerberg was a lackey of the Democratic Party in 2020. This time, he did nothing to help Kamala Harris. I think that spoke volumes.

207 posted on 11/16/2024 11:29:52 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: gw-ington

Interesting that you quote me, but fail to ping me, although you ping others.
That, by itself, says a lot...


208 posted on 11/16/2024 2:40:53 PM PST by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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To: Pollard


"How many ballots fit in an 18 wheeler going from NY to PA?"


You mean the one (probably many more) that they told the driver to park the trailer at some warehouse.. when he came back the next day, his trailer was missing?
I wonder why that story disappeared.
209 posted on 11/16/2024 3:01:46 PM PST by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
So why can’t you tell us what really happened? We told you how live election night votes were simply switched from Trump to Biden. And that vote counts were simply increased by the millions.

Great! So you now claim Democrats "simply switched" many "millions" of votes from Trump to Biden. So where's your hard evidence of it?

I've asked the few foul-mouthed trolls on this forum (who have been frantically cursing me and insanely throwing personal insults at me) where's your evidence of "15 Million" fake votes? Then someone protested, no there's not 15 Million fake votes, it's "500,000" fake votes in the swing states. Now this guy is saying it's many "millions" of fake votes. These few foul-mouthed desperate guys are all over the map. They went berserk because I said "15 Million." Well, one guy posted a chart showing 15 Million extra Democrat votes in 2020 (vs 2012, 2016, and 2024), implying those 15 Million extra Democrat votes must have been faked by Democrats. Evidence?

So which is it? How many Democrat fake votes in the 2020 Stolen Election? 15 Million? 500,000? Many "millions?"

You can easily guess the reason they're claiming wildly different numbers of fake votes in 2020. Because they don't have any hard evidence. If they did, then you can bet many Republican politicians would go on every TV network and wave all that hard evidence at the interviewers: "Here's the hard evidence of the __(fill in gigantic number)__ fake votes in 2020!" But not one Republican politician has ever gone on any TV show and provided the American people with that hard evidence. Four years later and still squat.

It's possible such faking was done by Democrats but no hard evidence has been given. (I find it almost impossible to believe Democrats are such world-class genius-level vote-fakers that have all Republicans totally stumped. I mean, c'mon, those are the same guys who thought they could win this election with a Laughing Hyena and Tampon Tim.) If the hard evidence of "500,000" fake votes or many "millions" or as much as "15 Million" fake votes by Democrats is ever found, that will obviously be the end of the Democrat Party. If that ever happens, I predict the Democrat Party will totally shatter and be replaced with a bunch of smaller identity-politics parties ... which would be even more great news for Republicans.

210 posted on 11/18/2024 11:50:26 AM PST by gw-ington (Congratulations to President Trump #45 & #47 and Vice President-Elect J.D. Vance!)
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