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Why Was There a Broad Drop-Off in Democratic Turnout in 2024?
The New York Times ^ | Nov. 11, 2024 Updated 3:17 p.m. ET | Michael C. Bender

Posted on 11/11/2024 1:00:32 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

Voters in liberal strongholds across the country, from city centers to suburban stretches, failed to show up to vote for Vice President Kamala Harris at the levels they had for Joseph R. Biden Jr. four years earlier, contributing significantly to her defeat by Donald J. Trump, according to a New York Times analysis of preliminary election data.

The numbers help fill in the picture of Mr. Trump’s commanding victory, showing it may not represent the resounding endorsement of his agenda that the final Electoral College vote suggests. Mr. Trump won the White House not only because he turned out his supporters and persuaded skeptics, but also because many Democrats sat this election out, presumably turned off by both candidates.

Counties with the biggest Democratic victories in 2020 delivered 1.9 million fewer votes for Ms. Harris than they had for Mr. Biden. The nation’s most Republican-heavy counties turned out an additional 1.2 million votes for Mr. Trump this year, according to the analysis of the 47 states where the vote count is largely complete.

The drop-off spanned demographics and economics. It was clear in counties with the highest job growth rates, counties with the most job losses and counties with the highest percentage of college-educated voters. Turnout was down, too, across groups that are traditionally strong for Democrats — including areas with large numbers of Black Christians and Jewish voters.

The decline in key cities, including Detroit and Philadelphia, made it exceptionally difficult for Ms. Harris to win the battlegrounds of Michigan and Pennsylvania.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections
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To: gw-ington
Similar question: Why 11 Million extra Republican votes in 2020?

Because Trump was a great president. A lot of people didn't trust him to be a conservative in 2016, but we voted for him anyways because Hitlery is a corrupt Nazi Bitch, and Trump was the lesser of the two evils.

After we saw how well he performed the office of President, many people no longer had qualms about supporting him.

Trump's votes were real. Nobody makes fake votes for Republicans. That's only a Democrat Big City thing.

And did you notice his vote totals in 2024 are just a little larger than his vote totals in 2020?

That's because they are real, not fake like Biden's votes.

You need to read up on this topic. The evidence of fraud is overwhelming.

161 posted on 11/11/2024 6:37:46 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Roadrunner383
A large majority of missing votes are in solid blue states. Not sure why the Dems would dump millions of fake ballots into California, New York, Illinois and other solid blue states in 2020.

Easier, because nobody is looking.

Runs up the Popular vote total.

Helps them grab congressional seats and senate seats.

162 posted on 11/11/2024 6:39:55 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: gw-ington
Well then, your basic argument is that the Democrats are super-geniuses who easily outfoxed the Republicans throughout not only the swing states in 2020 but also throughout the entire nation.

Fallacy of false choice. The correct answer is they are corrupt, and were willing to do things Republicans didn't think they would do.

You can't prepare for the level of vote corruption they pulled in 2020 if you never thought they would go so far.

We were prepared in 2024, and that's why they couldn't get away with it. Lawyers at the ready, court orders already obtained, poll watchers in place, and watchers everywhere.

Also got laws changed to make it harder to pull that sh*t they pulled in 2020.

163 posted on 11/11/2024 6:44:06 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: gw-ington
LOL. Keep looking for those 15 Million (fake) mail-in ballots stuffed into ballot boxes in 2020 by Democrats. Let me know when you find even one of them. I’ll wait ...

Why are you trying to be an @$$hole? You obviously didn't keep up with the news that was reported here at Free Republic, and so you want to mock people who did?

The Arizona UACAVA votes (overseas ballots, mostly the military) were about 2,600 in 2016. In 2020, they were over 9,000, and 95% for Joe Biden.

The Military always vote heavily Republican, and Arizona already leans Republican, so you have two levels of Republican leaning voters, and they went 95% for Joe Biden?

Also, they weren't the correct returned ballots. They were photocopies of ballots, and should have been rejected, but they got counted by Arizona's corrupt election system anyway.

164 posted on 11/11/2024 6:48:45 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: gw-ington
I'm still patiently waiting for any actual real evidence of the above claim by Republicans and the above claim by Democrats ...

No you're not. Massive amounts of evidence has already flowed past your window and you clearly didn't bother to look at any of it. There have been perhaps a 100 stories about the various ways Democrats rigged the 2020 election. We even have video of that woman in Georgia running the exact same stack of ballots through the counting machine over and over again. You think there is any valid reason for her doing that?

You don't want to see any evidence.

165 posted on 11/11/2024 6:53:51 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Diversity Is Our Weakness
There was no dropoff. Biden got 65 million honest votes and the rest were phony.

That's what I think.

166 posted on 11/11/2024 7:00:33 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Because they all went back to their graves.


167 posted on 11/11/2024 7:36:08 PM PST by Jaded (I'll take "How Stupid Are People" for $1000, Alex. Look! It's a Daily Double.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The decline in key cities, including Detroit and Philadelphia

BLM Protests. Looted and Burned anyone?

168 posted on 11/11/2024 8:29:25 PM PST by CptnObvious
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Well... there wasn’t a big drop off.

The same amount of voters showed up.

Fewer fraudsters did...


169 posted on 11/11/2024 8:39:49 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands. )
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To: gw-ington

Dems have had almost same vote turnout last three


170 posted on 11/12/2024 1:31:11 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yup. Bannon rant was great.


171 posted on 11/12/2024 4:35:06 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: Maskot
Orangeman bad

Not gonna resonate because Trump isn't running and the GOP will attract double diigit primary qualifiers, most are highly competent, unlike the dems with buttigeig and newscum and whitmer.

172 posted on 11/12/2024 5:54:20 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They ask about the drop, but cannot (ever) mention the fact that those 15 million votes never existed in any other election before or since 2020.


173 posted on 11/12/2024 6:27:17 AM PST by MortMan (Charter member of AAAAA - American Association Against Alliteration Abuse)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Because it was a Broad drop off.

Their candidate was a toenail, and they knew it.
174 posted on 11/12/2024 6:38:52 AM PST by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: gw-ington; All
You continue to spout your straw-man arguments, but you have STILL sleazily neglected to answer MY question, so here it is a fourth time:

Do you have a logical expplanation for the following?

OBAMA 2008
69,000,000 votes
Wins 873 Counties
Wins 18 of 19 Bellwether counties
Wins Florida, Ohio, and Iowa
Wins House seats
WINS ELECTION
TRUMP 2020
74,000,000 votes
Wins 2497 Counties
Wins 18 of 19 Bellwether counties
Wins Florida, Ohio, and Iowa
Wins House seats
LOSES ELECTION
BIDEN 2020
81,000,000 votes
Wins 477 Counties
LOSES 18 of 19 Bellwether counties
LOSES Florida, Ohio, and Iowa
LOSES House seats
WINS ELECTION


176 posted on 11/12/2024 9:07:09 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: kiryandil; gw-ington; wardaddy

gw-ington is a known troll (suspected retread)...

Another that belongs as DU and not here.


177 posted on 11/12/2024 3:37:48 PM PST by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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To: Bikkuri

Amen to that
Prolly a paid Jonah Goldberg fellow traveler


178 posted on 11/12/2024 10:43:32 PM PST by wardaddy (IFREE J6ers JAIL LIZ CHENEY! COMEY CLAPPER BRENNAN and so on)
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To: wardaddy; E. Pluribus Unum; Maskot; DiogenesLamp; Responsibility2nd
gw-ington is a known troll (suspected retread)...

LOL. No, I'm not a troll. I'm a conservative Republican. The actual trolls are those throwing personal insults at me, and that's because you laughably lack any kind of rational argument.

There's no clear evidence of 15M stuffed fake ballots & tons of rigged voting machines in 2020. If there were, you'd think Republican politicians would wave that evidence in the face of Americans and say, "Here it is, indisputable proof!" But nope. Four years later, Republicans still haven't shown the evidence to Americans.

I've often explained on this forum, since November 2020, how Democrats actually stole the election, but you continue ignoring it.

For four years, Republican politicians & talking heads went on CNN/MSNBC, claiming Democrats stuffed fake ballots & rigged voting machines, but they never once provided the leftist hosts with any hard evidence, let alone enough to overturn the results. If there are tons of evidence as you claim, why don't those Republican politicians ever provide any of it on CNN/MSNBC?

Another asinine argument on this thread (claiming stuffed fake ballots & rigged voting machines) is that Democrats stole the election but all Republicans had no clue Democrats would do that. However, throughout 2019/2020, President Trump often warned America that Democrats will steal the 2020 election. In response to Trump's warnings, in 2019, Democrats formed a "research group" that published a detailed report claiming how President Trump will steal the 2020 election. That's a typical Democrat politician tactic: Do something bad against the U.S. and accuse your political opponent of doing that which you are guilty of perpetrating.

You foul-mouthed trolls could be right that Democrats stuffed tons of fake ballots in ballot boxes & rigged lots of voting machines in 2020. But there is still no hard evidence of those two specific claims. It's everything else Democrats did to steal the 2020 Election (which I've previously explained in great detail on this forum many times).

179 posted on 11/15/2024 5:18:44 PM PST by gw-ington (Congratulations to President Trump #45 & #47 and Vice President-Elect J.D. Vance!)
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To: gw-ington; wardaddy; E. Pluribus Unum; Maskot; DiogenesLamp; Responsibility2nd
I counted at least 5 times you made this lie in one form or another through out this thread:
It's interesting that, four years later, some Republicans still claim Democrats stuffed 15 Million extra (fake) mail-in ballots into the mix in 2020 ... yet the genius Republicans still cannot find even one of those fake mail-in ballots (along with actual receipt).

And in post 126 I pressed you to explain how it was stolen. You could not/did not answer. All you've done and are now doing is lie that we claim 15 million ballots were stuffed.

So until you back off your lies - you will be branded a TROLL.

180 posted on 11/15/2024 5:33:01 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Climate Change is Real. Winter, Spring, Summer and Fall.)
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