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Why Was There a Broad Drop-Off in Democratic Turnout in 2024?
The New York Times ^ | Nov. 11, 2024 Updated 3:17 p.m. ET | Michael C. Bender

Posted on 11/11/2024 1:00:32 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

Voters in liberal strongholds across the country, from city centers to suburban stretches, failed to show up to vote for Vice President Kamala Harris at the levels they had for Joseph R. Biden Jr. four years earlier, contributing significantly to her defeat by Donald J. Trump, according to a New York Times analysis of preliminary election data.

The numbers help fill in the picture of Mr. Trump’s commanding victory, showing it may not represent the resounding endorsement of his agenda that the final Electoral College vote suggests. Mr. Trump won the White House not only because he turned out his supporters and persuaded skeptics, but also because many Democrats sat this election out, presumably turned off by both candidates.

Counties with the biggest Democratic victories in 2020 delivered 1.9 million fewer votes for Ms. Harris than they had for Mr. Biden. The nation’s most Republican-heavy counties turned out an additional 1.2 million votes for Mr. Trump this year, according to the analysis of the 47 states where the vote count is largely complete.

The drop-off spanned demographics and economics. It was clear in counties with the highest job growth rates, counties with the most job losses and counties with the highest percentage of college-educated voters. Turnout was down, too, across groups that are traditionally strong for Democrats — including areas with large numbers of Black Christians and Jewish voters.

The decline in key cities, including Detroit and Philadelphia, made it exceptionally difficult for Ms. Harris to win the battlegrounds of Michigan and Pennsylvania.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2020; 2024; dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; electionfraud; fakenews; mediawingofthednc; michaelcbender; newyorkslimes; nonexistentvoters; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; presstitutes; smearmachine; stopthesteal; tds; tdsimbeciles; trump
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To: wardaddy
Amen to that Prolly a paid Jonah Goldberg fellow traveler

You literally have no clue. I'm a conservative Republican. That's why I know for an indisputable fact that you and your few angry pals on this thread are talking through your a**es regarding this "fake ballots & rigged voting machines" evidence topic on this thread.

I especially like your posse's absurd claim that Democrats are hiding all the evidence (of stuffed fake ballots & rigged voting machines), which you claim therefore "proves" your argument. So your claim "proves" your claim is "proven." LOL.

181 posted on 11/15/2024 5:34:57 PM PST by gw-ington (Congratulations to President Trump #45 & #47 and Vice President-Elect J.D. Vance!)
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To: gw-ington

Chicago voting philosophy dates back to the 1950’s under Mayor Daley Sr. “Vote early, vote often”. Now, believe what you want, it’s a free country.


182 posted on 11/15/2024 5:44:55 PM PST by Chgogal (To paraphrase Biden: You vote Democrat? Then you ain't smart. )
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To: gw-ington; wardaddy; E. Pluribus Unum; Maskot; DiogenesLamp; Responsibility2nd
It's everything else Democrats did to steal the 2020 Election (which I've previously explained in great detail on this forum many times).

You also made this lie in post 115 - And they're making the WRONG argument anyway, as I've often explained on this forum since 2020.

You say you know how the 2020 election was stolen. You say you've explained it "in great detail".

You lie! I know you won't answer this. Too chicken bleep. But I'll apologize if you can link to a reply of yours here where you explained The Steal. You can't. All you can do is blame us for insisting we did something we did not do.

183 posted on 11/15/2024 5:46:34 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Climate Change is Real. Winter, Spring, Summer and Fall.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
you will be branded a TROLL.

As if your childish name-calling is relevant to me. It's not.

So now you're taking back your claim that Democrats stole the 2020 Election by stuffing fake ballots in ballot boxes & rigging voting machines? If you're not making that claim, then what is your actual claim about how Democrats stole the 2020 Election?

I agree with all Republicans who say Democrats stole the 2020 Election. I disagree about the evidence of that Election Steal. As I've said, many Republican politicians frequently went on CNN/MSNBC the past four years and made the same argument that you and your few foul-mouthed pals on this thread keep making, that Democrats stuffed fake ballots & rigged voting machines to steal the election. The CNN/MSNBC reporter always asks: "Which specific ballot is fake & which voting machine was rigged?" Every Republican guest always responds with: "... (cricket sounds) ..." What a total embarrassment, time and time again, for four years (and counting). Where's the hard evidence? I see that you and your few fellow foul-mouthed pal trolls on this thread still have no answer to that very simple question. That's telling.

I often posted on this forum since November 2020 how Democrats stole the 2020 Election. That election steal could also include stuffing fake ballots & rigging voting machines but there's no hard evidence of those two claims, so four years later, it's just your guess.

184 posted on 11/15/2024 5:55:21 PM PST by gw-ington (Congratulations to President Trump #45 & #47 and Vice President-Elect J.D. Vance!)
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To: Chgogal
Chicago voting philosophy dates back to the 1950’s under Mayor Daley Sr. “Vote early, vote often”. Now, believe what you want, it’s a free country.

Oh gee, thanks for informing me that the U.S. is a "free country." I thought it's a "communist country." And thanks for "letting" me "believe what I want." That's big of you. I thought I was only allowed to believe whatever you ordered me to believe.

Also, I didn't realize that Illinois was the only state that President Trump allegedly "lost" in 2020. So, Mayor Daley's quote from the 1950s is your hard evidence that Democrats stuffed fake ballots in ballot boxes & rigged voting machines in 2020?

This thread gets funnier and funnier over time ... while your alleged "arguments" get more and more ridiculous over time.

But feel free to believe whatever you want to believe. Because, in case you didn't know it, the United States is a free country.

185 posted on 11/15/2024 6:01:45 PM PST by gw-ington (Congratulations to President Trump #45 & #47 and Vice President-Elect J.D. Vance!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Bttt.

5.56mm


186 posted on 11/15/2024 6:06:31 PM PST by M Kehoe (Thank you Jesus. )
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To: gw-ington
I see that I'm not just dealing with a troll and a lying troll at that.
I often posted on this forum since November 2020 how Democrats stole the 2020 Election.
I'm also dealing with an AI troll who's programmed to repeat the same lies over and over.

You've never posted how the Election was stolen.

Whatsa matter? Your GIGO programmer forgot to add in how to explain that in your regular AI generated lies?

187 posted on 11/15/2024 6:12:04 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Climate Change is Real. Winter, Spring, Summer and Fall.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
You say you know how the 2020 election was stolen. You say you've explained it "in great detail". You lie!

No, actually, you're the blatant liar for falsely calling me a liar (even though you never even bothered to look up my posts in which I explained how 2020 was stolen by Democrats). I've often posted my explanation of how Democrats stole the election on this forum since November 2020, on different threads, over the last four years.

188 posted on 11/15/2024 6:13:15 PM PST by gw-ington (Congratulations to President Trump #45 & #47 and Vice President-Elect J.D. Vance!)
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To: gw-ington
There's no clear evidence of 15M

15M? No. At least 500,000 votes in swing states? Likely.

189 posted on 11/15/2024 6:15:54 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: gw-ington

I’ve often posted my explanation of how Democrats stole the election on this forum since November 2020, on different threads, over the last four years.

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Prove it liar. Show me just one link to back up your claim.


190 posted on 11/15/2024 6:16:46 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Climate Change is Real. Winter, Spring, Summer and Fall.)
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To: kiryandil; wardaddy; Bikkuri; Jane Long
Oh Joy. Our favorite lying retread troll is back with the same old lies.

post 179.

 

I've figured out he's not just a lying retread POS troll, but an AI generated troll at that.

post 187

191 posted on 11/15/2024 6:19:18 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Climate Change is Real. Winter, Spring, Summer and Fall.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
You and your few foul-mouthed troll pals on this thread are trolls because you keep lying about me. I'm a conservative Republican. Go hallucinate about me being an AI bot or whatever other ridiculous thing you want to falsely claim.

There's no hard evidence of Democrats stuffing fake ballots & rigging voting machines. Yet, I know Democrats stole the election based on everything else they did. But I would never claim to anyone that Democrats stole the 2020 Election by stuffing fake ballots & rigging voting machines. I would be shut down right away by anyone who asked: "Where's your hard evidence?" That's why I never claim fake ballots & rigged voting machines flipped the election to Biden. It's everything else that Democrats did that resulted in the Democrats' 2020 Stolen Election.

And I always go back to, if there were any hard evidence of fake ballots & rigged voting machines, Republican politicians would be waving all that hard evidence in front of all Americans: "This is the hard evidence!"

But nope, four years later, and still no evidence of fake ballots & rigged voting machines that would flip the outcome. And if it's true that's what Democrats are doing (and have been doing since Daley's 1950s Chicago), then why haven't any Republican politicians done anything about it for the past SEVEN DECADES? (I guarantee that you won't have a rational answer to that simple question.)

192 posted on 11/15/2024 6:31:44 PM PST by gw-ington (Congratulations to President Trump #45 & #47 and Vice President-Elect J.D. Vance!)
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To: gw-ington

There’s no hard evidence


The lamp is broken, and your kids were the only ones in the room. You don’t have any hard evidence.


193 posted on 11/15/2024 6:37:59 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
15M? No. At least 500,000 votes in swing states? Likely.

Then go on CNN/MSNBC, call the New York Times, tell them you have the hard evidence of "500,000 votes in swing states."

Oh no, actually, you have zero evidence of even one vote.

Look, if the hard evidence of Democrats stuffing fake ballots & rigging voting machines (to artificially generate a fake "500,000 votes in swing states") ever emerges, I'll be the first to congratulate you. But given that one of you claimed that Democrats have been stealing elections for at least seven decades (and Republicans STILL haven't done a thing about it), then I'd have to call your bluff and say, No it's absolutely impossible that Democrats are that super-smart and Republicans are that super-dumb. Because that's what you're implying, that Republicans are just too stupid to ever catch the Democrats in their seven decades of stealing elections.

I believe Republicans, in general, are smarter than Democrats and have more common sense and rationality. I believe that Democrat politicians such as Barry Soetoro, Hillary, Potato46, Kamala, Bill and Tim Walz are quite dumb.

Your argument makes no sense.

194 posted on 11/15/2024 6:41:42 PM PST by gw-ington (Congratulations to President Trump #45 & #47 and Vice President-Elect J.D. Vance!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Prove it liar. Show me just one link to back up your claim.

Look it up, liar. My posts are on the forum. Just because you're too lazy of a liar to even look it up, doesn't mean I have to find it for you. Stop being so lazy, liar.

195 posted on 11/15/2024 6:43:00 PM PST by gw-ington (Congratulations to President Trump #45 & #47 and Vice President-Elect J.D. Vance!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I've figured out he's not just a lying retread POS troll, but an AI generated troll at that.

False. That's just more of your laughably asinine ridiculous baseless assumptions. You're just pulling more and more childish insults out of your arse. Your foolish insults have no impact on me. I simply point them out as you make them. But my guess is you'll continue to pile up more and more insults.

Again, do you or your few troll pals have any hard evidence of fake ballots & rigged voting machines? And if so, why don't you go on Fox News and CNN/MSNBC and tell them all about it? Why not send your hard evidence to all the major newspapers? Why don't any Republican politicians provide any hard evidence of stuffed fake ballots & rigged voting machines from 2020? It's been four whole years and still no evidence? As I've often said, it's everything else Democrats did that stole the election for them.

We all agree Democrats stole the election. We just disagree on how it was done. But it is possible that Democrats also stuffed fake ballots & rigged voting machines but there's no hard evidence of it, after four whole years. Where is the hard evidence? It's a simple question, so why can't you answer it -- where's the hard evidence of fake ballots & rigged voting machines?

196 posted on 11/15/2024 6:51:16 PM PST by gw-ington (Congratulations to President Trump #45 & #47 and Vice President-Elect J.D. Vance!)
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To: gw-ington
Look it up, liar. My posts are on the forum. Just because you're too lazy of a liar to even look it up, doesn't mean I have to find it for you. Stop being so lazy, liar.

 

It's a verifiable fact that you molest small farm animals. And there are links to prove it.

But as you say, I'm to lazy to look them up. So you'll have to.

197 posted on 11/15/2024 6:54:20 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Climate Change is Real. Winter, Spring, Summer and Fall.)
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To: gw-ington
Your argument makes no sense.

I don't have hard evidence. Just a hypothesis. We do know that there was covid in 2020. Democrats took advantage of the crisis to enact universal mail ballots for all states in 2020.

It wasn't like that this time.

198 posted on 11/15/2024 6:57:12 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: gw-ington

It’s a simple question, so why can’t you answer it — where’s the hard evidence of fake ballots & rigged voting machines?

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We keep telling you there is none. But you keep insisting we say this.

So why can’t you tell us what really happened? We told you how live election night votes were simply switched from Trump to Biden. And that vote counts were simply increased by the millions. With no stuffed ballots necessary.

Do you believe that happened?


199 posted on 11/15/2024 6:58:22 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Climate Change is Real. Winter, Spring, Summer and Fall.)
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To: gw-ington

We already explained it to you, troll retread.


200 posted on 11/15/2024 7:17:53 PM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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