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Delphi murders trial: Jury reaches verdict for suspect Richard Allen after deliberating for 4 days
Fox ^ | 11/11/2024 | Conklin

Posted on 11/11/2024 11:52:55 AM PST by Phoenix8

An Indiana jury on Monday afternoon reached a verdict for double murder suspect Richard Allen for the February 2017 killings of two girls who had been walking on a hiking trial in Delphi, known as the Delphi murders.

The verdict will be announced in a Carroll County courtroom.

The case had been more than seven years in the making since Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, and Liberty "Libby" German, 14, disappeared during their walk on Feb. 13, 2017, and investigators found them both brutally murdered the next day, with sticks covering their bodies in a wooded area near the High Monon Trail.

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: childmurder; delphi; delphiindiana; in; massmurder
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Honestly execution is not enough. Nor that asinine idea of giving “multiple” life sentences:

https://images.app.goo.gl/cjaNQhrSTcLiRZTf9

1 posted on 11/11/2024 11:52:55 AM PST by Phoenix8
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To: Phoenix8; ducttape45

Ping.


2 posted on 11/11/2024 11:54:26 AM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: stylecouncilor

Ping


3 posted on 11/11/2024 12:00:12 PM PST by windcliff
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To: Phoenix8

Guilty.

https://www.wthr.com/article/news/crime/delphi-girls-murdered/jury-has-reached-a-verdict-delphi-murders-trial-richard-allen-libby-german-abby-williams-deliberation-liberty-abigail-guilty-or-not/531-d6b210da-905d-44b7-8e5c-fa28fef0a4c2


4 posted on 11/11/2024 12:01:23 PM PST by rdl6989 ( )
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To: Phoenix8

Multiple “life” sentences affect parole, pardon, and commutation decisions, and if one conviction is overturned the other may stand.


5 posted on 11/11/2024 12:08:21 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (לעזאזל עם חמאס)
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To: Phoenix8

Thank God ... a guilty verdict on all counts. I have followed the trial closely (daily accounts) & didn’t see how the jury could reach any other verdict, but these days, you just don’t know.


6 posted on 11/11/2024 12:08:52 PM PST by Qiviut (The mountains are calling & I must go ..... John Muir )
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To: Phoenix8

I’d like to see multiple dead sentenced, administered consecutively.


7 posted on 11/11/2024 12:15:25 PM PST by fwdude (Why is there a "far/radical right," but damned if they'll admit that there is a far/radical left?)
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To: Qiviut

Seems like some local radio stations were commenting daily how weak the State’s case was. But I wasn’t following it myself.


8 posted on 11/11/2024 12:36:00 PM PST by circlecity
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I always think of Richard Pryor’s routine...

“How do you do ‘Triple Life’, that means if he die and come back, he gotta go to penitentiary.”

“____ Kindergarten, get your ass back to the penitentiary....You know what you did last time you was here!”


9 posted on 11/11/2024 12:40:00 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Read the article and honestly not enough evidence to have made me vote guilty and certainly not the death penalty.

The entire case seems to have hinged on the "confession" and people sadly do confess to things they did not do.

Not sure if it is the case here but he did confess to at least two crimes that he did not commit. Which would lead to reasonable doubt on my part.

Now this is the only article I have read, there undoubtedly a lot of stuff not included and the writers have a bias.

So I could be wrong.

10 posted on 11/11/2024 12:48:28 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: dfwgator

ROFL!!!!


11 posted on 11/11/2024 12:48:53 PM PST by EliRoom8
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To: circlecity

The state’s case was VERY strong - a few of their points:

Allen confessed a total of 62 times (wife, mother, jailers, warden, psychiatrist, etc)
A shell that ballistically matched his gun was found at the murder scene. In an interview, he was asked if he had loaned his gun to anyone or if anyone else had access to his gun .... answer was ‘no’.
He disclosed details of the crimes that only the murderer would know (a white van went by on the road near where he had the girls- he had planned to rape them, but after the van went by, he was spooked & just killed them - van & timing checked out)
He put himself at the park during the relevant time period (voluntarily spoke with a ranger after girls found)
Multiple witnesses who were in the park that day ID’d him as “Bridge Guy”
He had clothes that matched Bridge Guy’s
He admitted killing the girls by cutting their throats with a box cutter & throwing it away in a dumpster at work (CVS - pharmacy tech)

I’m sure I forgot a few things. The defense was what was ‘weak’.


12 posted on 11/11/2024 12:59:54 PM PST by Qiviut (The mountains are calling & I must go ..... John Muir )
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

It is my I understanding that he made several confessions under differing circumstances.

So , yes, I think the direct evidence was weak. But I don’t know how the jury can just write off these confessions.


13 posted on 11/11/2024 1:00:20 PM PST by MustKnowHistory
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To: Phoenix8
This is a case that is going to haunt a lot of people for a lot of years. Right or wrong, guilty or non-guilty, I honestly don't know that the case was presented, argued or defended to the best of anyone's ability.

Bottom line, if he's truly guilty, then I'm glad they got their man, but if he's not, then years down the line someone is going to have a lot of regrets.

14 posted on 11/11/2024 1:04:59 PM PST by ducttape45 (Jeremiah 17:9, "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?")
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To: Qiviut

I know nothing about guns, as will soon be evident, but it is my understanding that the bullet was not fired from his gun, but merely cycled through the chamber.

Would that leave enough markings to definitely prove it came for his gun, or just enough to prove it came for a similar gun?


15 posted on 11/11/2024 1:08:44 PM PST by MustKnowHistory
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To: Qiviut

I stopped following the news about this, in case they had to move the trial, and maybe I would be selected for the jury. I didn’t want to be swayed by news reports. It’s been a long time coming for justice for Abby and Libby.


16 posted on 11/11/2024 1:13:29 PM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

“””Read the article and honestly not enough evidence to have made me vote guilty and certainly not the death penalty.”””


I have watched the entire proceedings of some high profile cases and when I read the media reports of the trial there seems to be a bias in favor of the defendant.


17 posted on 11/11/2024 1:56:57 PM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: ducttape45

I’m amazed they even had a video of the killer with sound and STILL had trouble finding him.

Shows how important a clear image is. As a side note they say dozens if not hundred of serious crimes are unsolved because so many store owners buy the cheapest and low quality security cameras.


18 posted on 11/11/2024 2:25:01 PM PST by Phoenix8
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To: Qiviut
didn’t see how the jury could reach any other verdict,

Well, there was the OJ case.

19 posted on 11/11/2024 3:10:59 PM PST by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: MustKnowHistory

Just cycled through, as you said, & evidently “Melissa Oberg, an Indiana State Police firearms examiner, testified that she found through her analysis that the unspent cartridge, more commonly known as a round, had been cycled through the same Sig Sauer, Model P226, .40-caliber handgun that Allen owns. Oberg, who’s been analyzing firearms for 17 years, was the only witness in a long day of tedious and technical testimony that delved into the minutiae of firearm cartridges and what causes markings on them.”

https://www.jconline.com/story/news/crime/2024/10/25/delphi-murder-trial-richard-allen-monon-high-bridge-sig-sauer-abigail-williams-liberty-williams/75807632007/


20 posted on 11/11/2024 3:14:37 PM PST by Qiviut (The mountains are calling & I must go ..... John Muir )
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