Posted on 11/10/2024 9:43:53 AM PST by DallasBiff
Donald Trump's 2024 election victory is fueling claims of fraud on both sides of the political divide. His right-wing supporters claim the outcome vindicates their debunked claims that the 2020 election was stolen from him. To a smaller degree, those on the left are circulating their own baseless claims casting doubt on this year's results.
The election denial movement Trump inspired has spent the past four years building an infrastructure and community around false claims that 2020 was rigged. This year, it invested heavily in raising similar alarms that voting would again be compromised — only for those claims to evaporate as returns came in.
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NPR must have hired Baghdad Bob to promote such propaganda.
“...Something is wrong here.” The only thing wrong is that the Left didn’t get the vote out like they did in 2020. If you look at the vote differences in those states where the Democrats were confident of keeping their popular vote totals,
you will see that that is where they lost big time. California down 4.4 million was enough alone to have won the popular vote.
Trump concentrated on the 7 swing states and won them.
He didn’t win the popular vote. The confident Democrats lost it.
Even the researchers at University of Washington (the same people who played a leading role in much of the disinformation about Covid) and the media Pharisees of National Public Radio, should have noted that there was a statistical aberration in those numbers — and taken a closer look at it rather than dismissing it as wholly within the valid and normal.
And the stopping of the counting for various suspicious reasons with Trump leading — and then continuing the count in the morning with Biden leading, and then subsequent batches coming in disproportionately in favor of Biden should have given any thoughtful and reputable person cause for further investigation.
Also, when a candidate has a record vote as Trump did in 2020 — it comes at the expense of the opposing candidate, and is not added to the candidate — to give them a winning total. So the numbers were way out of line and rightfully caused suspicion by any unbiased observers.
Something wasn’t right, and in the subsequent four years, everything that could go wrong went wrong especially the disintegration of all our major cities, and seemed like the world was going crazy — because nothing made sense anymore — including the “Democratic” nominating process for president,s men were women, etc. — which the media worked overhard to convince us was fair and normal.
The Chinese have an expression for this — it is the legitimacy of the “Mandate of Heaven” — of which everything seems to go right for the rightful ruler, while everything will not go right for the wrongful ruler.
The peculiarity of the life and times of Donald Trump is that everything seems to go right with him, and go disastrously for his opponents — including losing their minds.
“All’s well that ends well.” Life never goes perfectly, but we want to have our best people in place to deal with the challenges that life and the future bring — because that is what they do, and we have to recognize. We don’t want people at the leadership disappearing for vacations or will never answer a question we pose to them; that is responsibility and accountability we expect from our leaders.
There is a reason things happen — even if we don’t understand them at the time they happen. For this, we want our most discriminating members of society, and not those who cannot “discriminate” up from down, left from right, right from wrong, men from women, etc. Leaders are the first to know, and not the last to know — or are incapable of “discriminating” such things. That is not a virtue worth signaling.
OBAMA 2008
69,000,000 votes
Wins 873 Counties
Wins 18 of 19 Bellwether counties
Wins Florida, Ohio, and Iowa
Wins House seats
WINS ELECTION
TRUMP 2020
74,000,000 votes
Wins 2497 Counties
Wins 18 of 19 Bellwether counties
Wins Florida, Ohio, and Iowa
Wins House seats
LOSES ELECTION
BIDEN 2020
81,000,000 votes
Wins 477 Counties
LOSES 18 of 19 Bellwether counties
LOSES Florida, Ohio, and Iowa
LOSES House seats
WINS ELECTION
Because they weren’t debunked. It was proven.
bttt
Screw off NPR.
The 2020 claims were never debunked. They were not investigated.
The Rats probably have a spreadsheet analysis somewhere in the bowels of their accounting division that calculates exactly how much money to spend for any given election on fraud, giving due consideration to all the costs, benefits, and risks. It's just business to them.
Nope. The poisonous lies of the last nine years surrounding all things Trump cannot be allowed to go unchallenged.
The American people need to settle all of this and render a verdict on what is true and what not true before we can move on. One side committed high treason and is lying to cover it up.
It is not a matter of opinion whether 2020 was stolen - we can’t just “agree to disagree”. That election was stolen and the American people need to understand that and get closure.
Those responsible need to be brought to justice or we have no Republic.
There’s a way to get fraud out of elections, but that would take the cheat out of elections. How we found ourselves too lazy to manually count votes lies at the heart of the problem. We have to get rid of the voting and counting machines! A big part of it is that we allow the federal presidential ballot to be loaded up with as many extraneous local and state issues and state candidates as possible. Just think if there was a special presidential election event just once every four years where a one page standard sized ballot was restricted to president (1 vote), vice-president (1 vote), senator (1 vote), house representative (1 vote). That’s four votes to hand count per ballot. How long would that take? Then eliminate absentee ballots only under true compelling circumstances (i.e., foreign military service) and then only with a signature witnessed and signed by two witnesses, post marked no less than one week before Election Day. All other voters would be required to cast their early vote in person with photo ID within one week before Election Day at designated voting centers or in person on election day and again only with a recognized photo ID. The importance of presidential elections every four years requires that this election be separated out from the rest of the sundry state referendums, constitutional amendments and other state and local office holder positions.
Here’s my theory: The Machine didn’t want Kamala to win and so the ballot factories were shut down for this election. Remember, Obama told the democrat governors who had presidential ambitions like Shapiro, Whitmer and Newsom to sit this one out because she was going to lose and they would damage their marketability if they were on that ticket. They gave the job to Tim Walz because he has no national future or ambitions and was the sacrificial lamb. In the irony of ironies, this then was actually an honest election.
It’s pretty much recognized that there were shenanigans and funny business in 2020, but it doesn’t really matter so much. People are looking forward now.
So the machine actually wanted Trump to win?
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