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High-schooler got a D after using AI for history paper so his parents sued
Tribune News Service ^ | unnamed

Posted on 10/19/2024 9:35:28 AM PDT by Rio

Shortly after their son received a D grade for using AI on a history paper at Hingham High School, his parents filed suit — claiming that “artificial intelligence is here to stay.”

The Harris boy and his partner were able to get only into the preliminary stages of the project when Petrie’s “spot check” of their work revealed the presence of AI-generated content. The teacher accused them of cheating, according to the complaint.

Petrie and Andrew Hoey, the head of the school’s history department, told the students they would have to each start new projects separately, could not use any of their previous work, and could not use AI at all.

The student at the heart of the complaint received a 0/20 for the notes portion of his project, a 0/30 on the rough draft portion and a 65/100 on the final paper — a D, “despite the fact he was forced to restart the project from scratch and never having received a grade this low on a final written project.”

The complaint argues that the use of AI was not explicitly barred by the teacher or the school’s Academic Integrity policy in effect at the time in question.

(Excerpt) Read more at oregonlive.com ...


TOPICS: Education; Science
KEYWORDS: ai; arth; education; oregon
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To: libstripper

Agreed.

AI now has a very mechanistic style—tends to easily drift into cliches.

On various Reddit groups where I post from time to time I have accused others of flunking the Turing test.

(Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test)

Curiously none of them have argued the point!


Where the smarter AI developers are going to get around this problem is to create AI programs that intentionally fail—and have to figure out what they did wrong.

That creates a template where the AI learns how to learn instead of just mimicking what it has seen elsewhere.


41 posted on 10/19/2024 10:58:15 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: Rio

Great parents.

I hope they can afford to support this kid for the rest of his life.


42 posted on 10/19/2024 11:21:32 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ("If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there")
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To: caver

My very liberal Jewish friend has a brilliant, handsome son who just graduated with honors from the university. He showed me a sample of AI on a little machine that goes over your eyes. I had a choice of what to watch and chose New Guinea. Fascinating,

When it was over, he asked me how I iiked it.
“Visually spectacular. But I could have done without the global warming conversation.”

Point is, the idiots have infiltrated everything.


43 posted on 10/19/2024 11:47:18 AM PDT by Veto! (Kamalaladingdong Sucks Rocks)
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To: Rio
My daughter teaches high school history. ChatGPT hadn't been out a week and her school was already seeing student's use it for homework.

My advice to her:


44 posted on 10/19/2024 11:52:03 AM PDT by DannyTN (ck)
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To: rdcbn1
AI is either going to improve scholarship by automating the search and collection of background materials or it is going to destroy scholarship by doing the thinking and work for the students so they can go out to drink and party 7 days a week instead of 3 and concentrate on video games and porn the rest of the time.

Simple. Relying on Skynet is going to destroy scholarship the same way that relying on spell checkers destroyed the ability of people to spell and proofread .

45 posted on 10/19/2024 11:59:01 AM PDT by Dahoser (The Harris campaign and media allies are not using JOY and FORWARD accidentally. Look them up.)
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To: Rio

PARENTS need to wake up.


46 posted on 10/19/2024 12:05:34 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: caver

Just like Xiden.


47 posted on 10/19/2024 12:18:20 PM PDT by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: Rio

48 posted on 10/19/2024 12:21:22 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("All he had was a handgun. Why did you think that was a threat?" --Rittenhouse Prosecutor)
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To: aposiopetic

Hingham is the town next door. It’s very upscale with plenty of Harris/Walz signs. They replaced the BLM signs. I guarantee that if a Hingham resident saw a black person walking around their neighborhood , the police would get a call.


49 posted on 10/19/2024 12:44:14 PM PDT by surrey
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To: Rio

It’s no different than being asked to take a math test for basic PEMDAS questions without a calculator.

You have to demonstrate YOUR ability to write. Having a computer spit out text is not your work.

I use AI every day to query information and to assist with written documents - but nobody is telling me not to and if they ask if I used AI I say, “OF COURSE!”.


50 posted on 10/19/2024 12:53:22 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: caver

Lord help the folks in and around those parents.

Can you imagine the chaos they probably cause?


51 posted on 10/19/2024 4:04:36 PM PDT by Notthereyet (Not There Yet)
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To: Rio

52 posted on 10/19/2024 5:26:48 PM PDT by simpson96
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To: Rio
"The complaint argues that the use of AI was not explicitly barred by the teacher or the school’s Academic Integrity policy in effect at the time in question."

The parents win.

The school needs to update their assignment policy.

53 posted on 10/19/2024 6:34:11 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: conservative_cyclist; ten18; Twotone; VeryFRank; Clinging Bitterly; Rio; aimhigh; Hieronymus; ...
If you would like more information about what’s happening in Oregon, please FReepmail me. Please send me your name by FReepmail if you want to be on this list. By the way, I'm looking for someone to take over the ping list. Let me know if you're interested.
54 posted on 10/21/2024 2:11:32 PM PDT by Twotone ( What's the difference between a politician & a flying pig? The letter "F.")
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To: Rio; 6amgelsmama; 100American; AAABEST; aberaussie; AbolishCSEU; AccountantMom; Aggie Mama; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the other articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

55 posted on 10/30/2024 8:33:40 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus”)
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