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1 posted on 09/13/2024 11:40:52 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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2 posted on 09/13/2024 11:44:24 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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De Beers was evil genius level convincing diamonds are precious and rare. Men have been paying the price for generations.


4 posted on 09/13/2024 11:54:52 AM PDT by C19fan
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Vanity surgery has allowed plastic surgeons to do reconstructive surgery at low cost or even pro-bono.

In the same way the luxury diamond market has allowed bort or industrial diamonds to be sold at below what it costs to mine them.

But now, even at that, the price of manufactured diamonds has dropped below the price of natural bort.

So demand for both luxury and industrial diamonds has dropped below what the market can produce.

5 posted on 09/13/2024 11:59:08 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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The local jewelers have really been pushing their “natural diamonds mean love” commercials. Here, honey, I love you enough to force poor African children to work in the mines and fund weapons for warlords.


7 posted on 09/13/2024 12:01:25 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (7/13/2024:The day the Democrats and their SA chose assassination as their primary political tool.)
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Bkmk


8 posted on 09/13/2024 12:05:20 PM PDT by sauropod ("This is a time when people reveal themselves for who they are." James O'Keefe Ne supra crepidam)
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They need to adapt since demand has dropped and supply has increased.

Become a brewery

DeBeers -—> DaBeers...sell to Ditka and DaBears


9 posted on 09/13/2024 12:07:10 PM PDT by HombreSecreto (The life of a repo man is always intense)
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lab grown diamonds are exactly the same as natural ones. There is no reason to buy a real diamond anymore.


12 posted on 09/13/2024 12:36:17 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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Diamond mining should go the way of the dinosaurs. Why waste so much money diving a huge hole when labs create better quality stones at a fraction of the price. My advice to diamond and other gem merchants is “learn to code.”


13 posted on 09/13/2024 12:56:03 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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Another 20th century tradition disappears.


14 posted on 09/13/2024 1:31:04 PM PDT by nwrep
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I guess I can sell my 1972 Mercury Marquis now.


15 posted on 09/13/2024 1:34:36 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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Not to mention if De Beers opened its vaults, diamonds would be worth as much as a lump of coal and less useful.


16 posted on 09/13/2024 1:41:05 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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THERE IS ONLY ONE MAGNUM

THERE IS ONLY ONE QUIGLEY

THERE IS ONLY ONE TIFFANY’S

THERE IS ONLY ONE DeBEERS


18 posted on 09/13/2024 2:22:05 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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Diamonds are a YUGE ripoff.

First, they not rare. At least not so rare as the diamond merchants let on. Nor high rare to deserve what they cost.

Not long after Cecil Rhodes (namesake of Rhodesia) founded DeBeers, he began the practice of hoarding the majority of what they mined in order to keep the prices jacked up. In fact he founded an international diamond cartel that remains in operation today, one of the world's few cartels that hasn't been driven out of existence. And he coached all members of the cartel to follow suit and only go to market with a tiny portion of what they had mined. Make more by selling less.

Known diamond reserves world-wide are 2.6 billion (with a "B") carats. 570 tons. Depending whose math you believe, between 12 and 30% of all mined diamonds are gem-quality, meaning there's something between 70 and 170 tons in gem-quality diamonds in known locations just waiting to be dug up.

And if gem-quality diamonds are only 8x rarer than industrial diamonds, how do they manage to command hundreds of times the price?

Besides hoarding at the mines, there's also collusion and price-fixing among the cartel's wholesalers (it wouldn't be much of a cartel without price-fixing, n'est-ce pas?). Because as long as they all hold the line, you have no choice but pay their extortion ... or go without. And retail mark-up is at least 100%, usually nearer to 200%.

It's also a myth that the diamond has long been the traditional stone for an engagement ring. At the start of the 20th Century, there was no clearcut answer as to whether an engagement ring needed a stone of any sort, much less a diamond. Then came the Great Depression and, like many merchants of luxury goods, DeBeers fell on hard times. They might even have gone under, or at least resorted to abandoning their hyperinflated pricing structure, if they hadn't hit on a master stroke of advertising in four simple words.

The obvious implication being that if you want your marriage/romance to last forever, a diamond is the only suitable "quid pro quo" when asking for her hand.

It's nothing traditional, and Jack and Dianne didn't come up with this nonsense on their own. They got it from a DeBeers ad campaign.

DeBeers also created the myth that a man should spend two month's salary on a ring for his betrothed. Which now usually gets retold as at least three, sometimes as many as six months, depending who's doing the re-telling.

It's been called the greatest ad campaign of the 20th Century. It both saved DeBeers and entrenched in the American consciousness the sense that you were "cheaping out" on the one you loved if you didn't spend more than you could afford on a rock that neither of you could tell from cut glass.

And anybody who recommends buying anything that the end user can't determine the authenticity of could only be a salesman. Or a politician.

There's about 7 million carats of man-made diamonds being grown in laboratories each year (versus 140-150 million carats of naturals being dug up). At the atomic level, man-made and natural diamonds are identical, both a face-centered cubic Bravais lattice of pure carbon. But man-made costs substantially less than a natural stone of the same color, cut, clarity and carat weight. And diamond-making is still in its infancy. There will be a great deal more of economy of scale to come, meaning the price advantage of lab-grown will continue to increase over all our lifetimes.

DeBeers and their ilk hope to hold on to their monopolistic cartel by pushing the concept that there's something inherently unromantic about a lab-grown diamond, presumably because there's some romantic attachment to the process of prospecting, discovering and mining the natural variety. But the simple fact is 99.9% of diamond-owners couldn't tell what they've got from a cubic zirconia if the lives of their children depended on it, much less whether their diamond came from a hole in the ground in South Africa or a laboratory on Long Island, so I hardly see the point.

Better still, ditch the diamonds altogether. Buy a white sapphire and spend the difference on a honeymoon in Tahiti.

21 posted on 09/13/2024 2:34:33 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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