[ConservativeMind]

This was an association found. That said, it could be something else with heme iron-containing meat, and not just this form of iron. It could also be from some other reason.

There are people who need some of what red meat provides. Heme iron is generally considered an excellent way to keep iron levels up, but we don’t need too much iron.

[ConservativeMind]

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[Twotone]

I would think that folks on hi-protein/low-carb diets are already at risk for T2D, & that’s why they started that form of diet.

[madison10]

I do. My iron is consistently low. I take iron pills for it.

[Mr Rogers]

More research malpractice. No attempt to discern what ELSE the people with higher heme levels might have in common. And I’m willing to be the answer would be SUGAR! Along with simple carbs and lots of highly processed foods.

But blame the meat...

There is an agenda.

[Pox]

Junk science.

HFCS and too much sugar and you are on your way to type 2 unless you're extremely active on a regular basis.

Always trying to make red meat look unappealing.

I'll go with what my acquaintances in their 80’s and 90’s have eaten with abundance their whole life, red meat.

[rsobin]

I’m calling bullish, likely an agenda biased study.

[politicket]

BS study. The prevalence of Diabetes was very small back in the day when red meat was even more of a staple of the American diet.

Listen to the speech of RFK Jr. yesterday. He brought receipts.

[Vaquero]

Yeah an insect diet would be better(s).

More leftist crap.

[sopo]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4418458/ Here is a beautiful old study. with some longitudinal follow up. Fits nicely with previous work in Samoa.

[mewzilla]

I call bravo sierra.

Significant link found between heme iron, found in red meat and other animal products, and type 2 diabetes risk

Check out this bit...

...“Compared to prior studies that relied solely on epidemiological data, we integrated multiple layers of information, including epidemiological data, conventional metabolic biomarkers, and cutting-edge metabolomics,” said lead author Fenglei Wang, research associate in the Department of Nutrition. “This allowed us to achieve a more comprehensive understanding of the association between iron intake and T2D risk, as well as potential metabolic pathways underlying this association.”...

They got what they wanted to get.

[ransomnote]

I don't believe the medical community much anymore. Our overlords want us to eat bugs.

National Diabetes Statistics Report - CDC

Among adults aged 18 years or older, the age-adjusted incidence of diagnosed diabetes was similar in 2000 (6.2 per 1,000 adults) and 2021 (5.8 per 1,000 adults). A significant decreasing trend in incidence was detected after 2008 (8.4 per 1,000 adults) through 2021. (Figure 4).  May 15, 2024

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ransomnote: Australia and US diabetes statistics do not go past 2021. Why?

Beef consumption dipped between 2000 and 2021, rising in 2015 continuously until it hit a record high in 2021. This doesn't match diabetes numbers which were said to decline from 2008 through 2021.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/542890/beef-consumption-us/

 

ransomnote: What about experimental 'vaccines'?

Following vaccination, 70% of all post vaccination reports of diabetes reported to the CDC's vaccine database are for Covid 19 'vaccination'. The association isn't clear - maybe those who were pre-diabetic and didn't know it did not tolerate the 'vaccine', or maybe the vaccine triggered diabetes in otherwise healthy people. I don't know as I am not medical, but there is an association for Covid 'vaccines' unlike associations for all other vaccines in the CDC/FDA Vaccine database.

There's many more patient records in a second system the CDC created specifically for patients receiving the Covid 'vax' which restricts data access to CDC staff, so the numbers could be higher. I have heard anecdotes of people having rapid onset' of diabetes post Covid vax.

[Mariner]

BS

Meat cannot cause diabetes.

It has it’s own metabolic problems (saturated fat), but diabetes isn’t one of them.

[Karoo]

That’s funny. I was pre diabetic for about two yrs. Then went on Keto diet meat, animal fat and very low carb (10 grams). Also no gluten and 2xday meals ie 2pm and 7pm

First thing, I lost 60 pounds right away. Three months later, my MD took blood work. My A1C was 5.4 and rest of blood work WNL.

I’ve stayed on diet...easiest diet I’ve ever been on because I am NEVER hungry.

[Skywise]

I call BS. We’ve eaten red meat for millennia and it didn’t cause issues.

[antidemoncrat]

OK everyone drop the meat and eat bugs ... Bwhhahahaha

[mewzilla]

From 2018...

Primary Hemochromatosis Presenting as Type 2 Diabetes Mellitus: A Case Report with Review of Literature

[Overtaxed]

So...are they talking about grain-fed meat or grass-fed meat?

[Fledermaus]

Not the “red meat is bad” crap again

Next week will be its good.

[Robert DeLong]

Processed foods are what are making us a sick nation, and it is all by design.

[little jeremiah]

Interesting. I remember a FReeper (nice guy, I miss him) who had a condition, cannot remember the specific name, but he had too much iron in his blood and had to have blood drawn periodically to keep from gettin bad symptoms. I never asked him if diet changes could help.

I’ve been a vegetarian most of my life and eat plenty of foods that have sufficient iron, was anemic once, and quickly resolved with diet.

I don’t proselytize about diet, but glad to five information for those interested. This article would be good for the Natural Health thread too.