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To: BroJoeK
This fact-check ...

Don't quote "Snopes" on anything. They are liberal lying sacks of sh*t, and you automatically lose the argument if you cite those liars. Same applies to any of the popular "News" sources, like ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, FOX, NPR, etc.

66 posted on 08/23/2024 11:17:13 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp; x; Bull Snipe
DiogenesLamp: "Don't quote "Snopes" on anything.
They are liberal lying sacks of sh*t, and you automatically lose the argument if you cite those liars."

I had to search all the way back to April 26, 2023 to find where we discussed this, at great length, the last time -- here, and here and here:

Regarding the alleged Lincoln quote:

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country.
As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign . . . until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands."

Herndon & Weik's books do not include alleged fake quote:

My previous posts focus on Lincoln's alcoholic lawyer William Herndon and his collaborator Jesse Weik in their 1888 biography of Lincoln.
Rick Crawford and Rich Buhler imply the alleged Lincoln quote originated from Emanuel Hertz's 1931 quote from William Herndon and Jesse Weik's 1888 biography of Lincoln.

However other sources, i.e., David Mikkelson, say that quote does not appear in Herndon's books, but instead was first seen in an 1888 political pamphlet.

So Mikkelson rejects Herndon & Weik as originating the quote, but instead focuses on an 1888 political pamphlet where the quote first appeared and was immediately denounced as a "bold, unflushing forgery" by Lincoln secretaries John Hay and John Nicolay, according to Mikkelson.

The only part of all this I can verify is that the alleged quote first appeared in Emanuel Hertz's 1931 book "Abraham Lincoln: A New Portrait"
Everything else is very murky and uncorroborated.


68 posted on 08/24/2024 6:48:28 AM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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