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Near-Death Experiences As Proof of a God
Various Places | 8/18./2024 | By Laz A. Mataz

Posted on 08/18/2024 12:03:17 AM PDT by Lazamataz

I've been a fan of watching YouTube accounts of Near Death Experiences lately. There are certain common elements:

Various neuroscientists have stated that simple biological processes of death produce these effects. Maybe the tunnel and the light can be explained by this, but the rest? No way. I cannot think that mere biological processes could manifest such a detailed series of accounts. Nor is there any evolutionary benefit to these processes, obviously... you are dead, right? Evolution is highly unlikely to be a factor here.

So this, to me, seems like quasi-scientific proof of a God. Now, religions have added all sorts of nonsense around these concepts, since almost to a person, the subject of an NDE describes a God that is utterly nonjudgemental and loving. So, take the 10 Commandments: Seems like the 10 Commandments were written to make OUR lives better, and it is not some cosmic scorecard that God is judging us on.

One person I know personally that had an NDE, would not talk a lot about it, but the one thing he did relate is that 'all the nonsense religion spouts? The beings on the other side, they don't care. Just be loving.'

And that aligns with what Jesus said: To love God with all your heart, and to love your fellow man.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Religion; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: faithandphilosophy; nde; neardeathexperience; raymondmoody; raymoody
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To: Bob434

Done!


261 posted on 08/19/2024 6:37:44 AM PDT by null and void (Don’t hallucinate and legislate)
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To: newfreep
Even Ray Charles can see that reality...and he's blind and dead!

And still voting!

262 posted on 08/19/2024 6:39:08 AM PDT by null and void (Don’t hallucinate and legislate)
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To: Lazamataz

Pll3ase let me make clear that I do not doubt every case of nde’s or peoples experiences of them. I have doubt about my own nde- as it was not biblical, and I obviously would have doubts about other people’s nde’s if they were unbiblical too. I tried to 3xplain what I think may have happened in my case- and why I experienced what I did. Was it real? I have my doubts- was part of it real? “Perhaps” is about all i can say for it.

Personally, and im just guessing here, I think it “might have been” a satanic attack during my weakest moments- it really shook me for a long time. It shook my faith big time. It caused me to struggle with “feeling unsaved” for a long time.

That “alone-ness in the outer darkness” was just so overwhelming an “experience” that all I can say now is, that if it is anywhere near what hell is going to be like, then brother, keep it away from me! I want no part of it.

Did it etch memories into my subconscious? Sure, how could it not, but here is where faith comes in- I must believe that it was not biblical, that it was meant to drag me down spiritually, and that I am a child of God DESPITE how i may feel.

Jesus is preparing a mansion for me and all his children- this life is nothing but a temporary waypoint on my journey to heaven. I pray that God blesses you in your searching and questioning.


263 posted on 08/19/2024 6:48:58 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Elsie

Yes I agree. You don’t get to really see the Shekinah glory in an NDE. You likely get a glimpse that your earthly mind can deal with.


264 posted on 08/19/2024 7:06:45 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Lazamataz

Years ago, my husband and I were coming home after playing cards, it was about 2am, about a thirty minute drive. We were on a two lane rural road about three miles from our house.. it was a warm, no breeze August night in Ohio. Suddenly on the right side of the road, on a well known dangerous curve we saw this crazy looking “cyclone”, the best I can describe. It was about ten feet high, four feet wide and three feet off the ground, very bright, with like an effervescent glow, slowly spinning, my husband slowed down, we couldn’t believe what we were seeing and thought maybe it was some kind of bug swarm. He then took off, I wanted to go back. The next day, in talking to a friend. she asked if I heard about the “Johnson” boy who was killed on the “256 curve” the night before. For a long time, I wanted to call his family, good people but only knew them slightly, and just not sure, I do believe it was this boys spirit.


265 posted on 08/19/2024 7:16:56 AM PDT by Toespi ( )
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To: Georgia Girl 2

If a person did not experience the Shekinah glory during an NDE, they need to take a real good self examination of their life and make some improvements.


266 posted on 08/19/2024 7:22:04 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: TheWriterTX

That story brought tears to my eyes.


267 posted on 08/19/2024 8:17:57 AM PDT by Laslo Fripp (Does anybody proofread anymore?)
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To: Laslo Fripp

It was an amazing experience and it set the course for the rest of my life.


268 posted on 08/19/2024 8:26:34 AM PDT by TheWriterTX (🇺🇸✝️🙏🇮🇱)
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To: Lazamataz

It took me a long time to go through all these posts. I’m fascinated with the near death stories and out of body experiences. As always I got a lot of chuckles with some of your responses, but most of all, I’m more convinced than ever that you are truly a GOOD man. Love these type of stories; keep them coming!


269 posted on 08/19/2024 2:31:16 PM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: null and void

Would you please add me to this ping list? Thank you!


270 posted on 08/19/2024 2:41:07 PM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: Old Grumpy

I’m so glad you found value in this thread!


271 posted on 08/19/2024 2:53:49 PM PDT by Lazamataz (If you are upset the bullet missed, contact me immediately. I'll make sure your bullet doesn't.)
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To: TheWriterTX; Old Grumpy

I have a story, not related to any of these topics, but it’s still fun.

I was 8, and my mom brought home, from Kodak, a whole bunch of Cobol coding sheets. They were huge, like 14 by 20 inches, and they were blank on the back. Mom thought I’d color or draw on the back.

I flipped them right-side-up, studied them for a while, marched into the living room, and told my mom, “Mom, I’m going to be a computer programmer when I grow up.”

Mom smiled, tussled my hair a little, and said “Awww, isn’t that cute!”

Yeah well, Mom, how do you like me NOW????

That’s right. At the age of 8, I knew what my career would be.


272 posted on 08/19/2024 2:58:00 PM PDT by Lazamataz (If you are upset the bullet missed, contact me immediately. I'll make sure your bullet doesn't.)
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To: Lazamataz

“That’s right. At the age of 8, I knew what my career would be.”

That’s outstanding! I’m STILL trying to figure out what I want to be when (and IF) I grow up. Seriously.


273 posted on 08/19/2024 3:14:43 PM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: Old Grumpy

Yes, I would be pleased to add you.
You’re on!


274 posted on 08/19/2024 3:47:24 PM PDT by null and void (Don’t hallucinate and legislate)
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To: Lazamataz

So YOU created the Y2K Problem!😁

I too did COBOL programming on those 80 column punched cards. But I had the sense to quit before it warped my mind. 😁


275 posted on 08/19/2024 3:49:35 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: null and void

😊


276 posted on 08/19/2024 4:12:09 PM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: Lazamataz

You knew your calling.

It’s exciting to do what you love. You become an expert at it.

Someday I absolutely love what I do. Just wish I had found this field when I was younger.


277 posted on 08/19/2024 5:24:26 PM PDT by TheWriterTX (🇺🇸✝️🙏🇮🇱)
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To: null and void

Add me as well, please!


278 posted on 08/19/2024 9:00:41 PM PDT by Ignatz (The bees don't bother to tell the flies that honey tastes better than dung.)
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To: tired&retired

So, you’re not so much a mind reader but a soul reader.

Got it.


279 posted on 08/19/2024 9:16:28 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: tired&retired

My wife used those 80 column cards, but she was data input/verifier, not programmer.


280 posted on 08/19/2024 9:19:39 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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