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To: SunkenCiv

Obscure fact:

Philip K. Dick (science fiction writer) claimed the exact opposite of the title of this thread.

He claimed the Roman Empire never ended in his very strange book “Valis”.


6 posted on 08/10/2024 8:25:32 PM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: cgbg
He claimed the Roman Empire never ended in his very strange book “Valis”.

He agrees with Hilaire Belloc, an historian/writer, who claimed the same thing earlier. It's not like Gibbons' date was recognized as such by the people living there at the time.
11 posted on 08/10/2024 8:37:47 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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To: cgbg

I had a History professor who claimed the Roman empire never fell but simply changed forms.

His position was that (Rightly so) the Byzantines were the Eastern 1/2 of the empire. He p[pointed out that many European provinces and National borders today are, in fact, ancient Roman ones. Our months, days of the week and many other things are of Latin origin. English is, in a lot of ways, Latin with a German accent

He said it was no coincidence that Washington DC, like Rome, was built on 7 hills.

What was wild was he had a whole Biblical apocalyptic eschatology built around the fact that the US is the revived Roman empire. (The guy was a lapsed Lutheran)

Honestly, it made some sense/


22 posted on 08/10/2024 9:22:22 PM PDT by Fai Mao ( The US government is run by pedophiles and Perverts for pedophiles and perverts.)
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To: cgbg; Dr. Sivana

PKD’s novel (1981)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valis_(novel)

ST:TNG (1968)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708421/

:^)


36 posted on 08/11/2024 3:35:59 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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