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Trump's huge $1.8 TRILLION tax cut to win over an essential group of voters (Social Security)
Daily Mail ^ | 8/07/24 | Sarah Ewall-Wice

Posted on 08/09/2024 5:43:09 PM PDT by Libloather

Donald Trump has claimed he will stop taxing the Social Security benefits of seniors if he wins a second term in the White House.

The cut is the latest in a series of tax relief policies which Democrats claim with endanger federal benefits and see the U.S' debt balloon. Others say Congress would be unlikely to pass the plans.

But this latest proposal made on Fox and Friends is the most significant and expensive yet, costing the government $1.8 trillion over the next decade, according to the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget.

They claim the cuts would see Federal benefits dry up sooner than expected.

'People on Social Security are being killed,' Trump said.

'One of the things I'm doing is no tax for seniors on Social Security, and I'll get it done quickly.

'No tax for seniors on Social Security.'

About 40 percent of people receiving Social Security have to pay federal income taxes on their benefits, according to the Social Security Administration.

Taxes on Social Security apply to individuals with household incomes above $25,000 and married couples with an income above $32,000. They pay 50 percent tax on that income.

Singles with incomes of more than $34,000 - $44,000 for couples - are also taxed on an additional 35 percent of their incomes.

All that revenue goes towards paying for Medicare.

The taxes help fund the Social Security and the Medicare Hospital Insurance trust funds.

Experts fear eliminating taxes on Social Security could run up the deficit and move up insolvency for the funds used to pay out those benefits.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; History; Local News
KEYWORDS: sarahewallwice; seniors; socialsecurity; suddenbudgethawks; taxes; tds; trillion; trump; voters; yuge
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To: Brian Griffin

*If older people weren’t favored by the benefits system, older people would bolt the USA(or UK) as soon as they reached retirement age, or way before.*

Fine. They move to Thailand and put up with the heat. A lot easier to get laid too. Women? They’d like it there if there was no reason to be afraid. Send their SSI checks there. Live like kings and queens.


21 posted on 08/09/2024 6:25:27 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Libloather

File a federal tax return as an “individual” and your combined income* is
Between $25,000 and $34,000, you may have to pay income tax on up to 50% of your benefits.
More than $34,000, up to 85% of your benefits may be taxable.

File a joint return, and you and your spouse have a combined income* that is
Between $32,000 and $44,000, you may have to pay income tax on up to 50% of your benefits.
More than $44,000, up to 85% of your benefits may be taxable.

Are married and file a separate tax return, you probably will pay taxes on your benefits.

* Your adjusted gross income
+ Nontaxable interest
+ ½ of your Social Security benefits
= Your “combined income”

https://www-origin.ssa.gov/benefits/retirement/planner/taxes.html

I can see where the 50% might come from, the employer share of FICA, but the justification for going up to 85% escapes me.


22 posted on 08/09/2024 6:25:40 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Libloather
But this latest proposal made on Fox and Friends is the most significant and expensive yet, costing the government $1.8 trillion over the next decade

Whose money is it if they never seize it to begin with? Apparently this nimrod presumes that it all belongs to the government to begin with, and anything you are allowed to keep is by their grace alone.

You think you hate journalists enough, but you don't.

23 posted on 08/09/2024 6:27:50 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: McGavin999

“ seniors are forced to get jobs just to make ends meet.”

Those probably aren’t paying taxes on it.


24 posted on 08/09/2024 6:28:14 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Have you seen Joe Biden's picture on a milk carton?)
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To: crusty old prospector

It seems like double taxing.


25 posted on 08/09/2024 6:29:07 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ealgeone
LaBosco shared that [Lieutenant Colonel Tulsi] Gabbard is unaware she has two Explosive Detection Canine Teams, one Transportation Security Specialist (explosives), one plainclothes TSA Supervisor, and three Federal Air Marshals on every flight she boards.

It appears as though the government can afford it.

So, the government and its Gaslight Media better shut their whining pieholes and cough up the scratch.

26 posted on 08/09/2024 6:30:14 PM PDT by kiryandil (FR Democrat Party operatives! Rally in defense of your Colombian cartel stooge Merchan!)
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To: crusty old prospector

Thank Bill Clinton for that.


27 posted on 08/09/2024 6:34:11 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, cexist .c)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“Then move to Thailand and put up with the heat.”

I was in Spain.

In southern Spain I would sometimes ask a question in my miserable Spanish and get asked if I happened to speak English by a UK expat.

If I wasn’t getting Medicare, I probably would have filled out a Lebanese residency application.

They have air conditioning in Thailand, just as in Florida. And I suspect household help is cheaper in Thailand.


28 posted on 08/09/2024 6:36:14 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

It’s gubmint. They will never willingly give up any money source.


29 posted on 08/09/2024 6:37:01 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Libloather

cutting taxes only costs the government when democrats run things


30 posted on 08/09/2024 6:42:29 PM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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To: Libloather

Was already going to vote for him. He didn’t have to sell me.


31 posted on 08/09/2024 6:48:54 PM PDT by chrisser (I lost my vaccine card in a tragic boating accident.)
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To: Libloather

That is okay, but Trump needs to decrease the evil spending that is our biggest national threat,


32 posted on 08/09/2024 6:50:14 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, cexist .c)
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To: Libloather

The objective should be to treat people fairly.

conservative <-> fairness

leftist <-> equality, even if not fair


33 posted on 08/09/2024 6:55:19 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Libloather

Income tax on benefits
2023 $49 billion
2024 $51 billion

https://www.ssa.gov/policy/trust-funds-summary.html

$1.8 trillion?


34 posted on 08/09/2024 7:03:48 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Libloather

the people who need social security relief are the people who pay the social security taxes who have kids….helping seniors at the expense of the young who pay for it is misguided


35 posted on 08/09/2024 7:34:18 PM PDT by impimp ( )
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To: crusty old prospector

“I never knew that SS was taxable until I started doing my parents’ taxes.”
Your parents can thank dickhead Bill Clinton for that gift.


36 posted on 08/09/2024 7:35:08 PM PDT by wjcsux (On 3/14/1883 Karl Marx gave humanity his best gift, he died. )
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To: Brian Griffin
I can see where the 50% might come from, the employer share of FICA, but the justification for going up to 85% escapes me.

In 1986 when Congre$$ changed the law to make SS benefits taxable.

Self Employment taxes are 15.3%, 7.65% from you and &.65% from your employer.

That's close enough to 15% for Congress.

37 posted on 08/09/2024 8:08:44 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: texas booster

Until 1986, social security benefits were not taxed.

It was “unseemly” to NOT have millionaires pay taxes on monies “they didn’t need”.


38 posted on 08/09/2024 8:21:42 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: Libloather

I paid social security and that was my money. I paid the maximum rate from the time I was 21 years old until retirement at 69 years of age. My employer also paid the same amount to my account. The government put it in the general fund and spent it, courtesy of our government. They did not invest it even in low percentage government bonds. They just took it! Now they give me back my money and tax it again as new income.

THAT WAS MY MONEY YOU THIEVING BASTARDS. Why must I pay taxes on my money you took from me?


39 posted on 08/09/2024 8:27:33 PM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, oilfield roughneck, drilling fluid tech, geologist, pilot, pharmacist ,MAGA)
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To: wjcsux

But he felt their pain.


40 posted on 08/09/2024 8:28:00 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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