Posted on 07/18/2024 12:33:01 PM PDT by ransomnote
His point when he mentioned the sum was actually about how hospitals don’t let you sleep, not that they needed to go outside.
I think every human who has been in a hospital has noted that they wake you constantly.
If you are getting heparin in a hospital setting, you have clots. Either causing a stroke or PE. They don’t just hook you up to a Heparin IV as a matter of course.
Most of the stuff he talks about sounds like it’s associated with heart issues. If you have a heart attack, they are going to follow a standard protocol until they can get some imaging done.
Pneumonia kills a lot of people in hospitals. It kills a lot of people in Skilled Nursing facilities. I don’t agree that everyone should get one when they go into the hospital, but for the elderly, it’s not a horrifying thing to get.
This whole thing sounds like a bit of over the top click bait.
But…the one point where he is correct: You absolutely need an advocate for you in any clinical environment. I spent years bird dogging my parents and their siblings and then my wife to appointments. If you don’t learn the system, it can bulldoze you.
My cats’ veterinarian is a much better doctor than is my GP.
Outside of the whole spay/neuter thing I’d trust my care to the veterinarian if I could.
he was speaking in general terms
everyone has one or the other whether its heparin
or something else he described.
Remember, tho, you as a patient have
the RIGHT TO REFUSE
The theory is that hospitals are killing people. Where is the money in that. They make no money after you are dead.
thousands every day times 365 days
so, lets say “thousands” is more than 2,000, because 2,000 would be described as “a couple of thousand”, so let’s be generous and say that thousands a days is as low as 3,000,
so 3,000 x 365 is nearly 1.1 million people a year “legally killed” in U.S. hospitals ... sorry, this nonsense doesn’t pass the smell test ...
Yes they do as they did me after major surgery. There is fractionated heparin that need less frequent injections and continuous heparin drips that are used dependent on the required anti-coagulant therapy.
cpdiii (retired hospital clinical pharmacist)
Yeah, I have been hospitalized many, MANY times, and never encountered most of this. This doc has no idea, or is just hearing about really negligent hospitals.
I only received heparin on dialysis as part of my schedule, and I take a daily PPI. I also work in a medical field, particularly with drugs. I’m familiar with a lot of these issues.
If you’re sick, you will sleep. Period. I’ve slept whole days; and the nurses have to come in to check your vitals, make sure you’re breathing normally, haven’t vomited, had a fall, and so forth. The nurses at my hospitals were in and out in under five minutes, so I always fell back asleep. I have never been offered psych meds, or slipped them. I know what all of my meds look like, and would recognize something extra. Besides, docs will prescribe meds for the insomnia, like Benadryl or Xanax, depending on what meds you take at home.
I’ve been lucky enough to be able to advocate for myself, and I’m thankfully knowledgable. I know many are not (you know how many people have no clue what meds they take or what they’re for?), and are stuck with negligent hospitals.
Still, I agree - salt, grain, etc. with this one.
Balderdascious drivel
Ping for later
That is fascinating because they are apparently doing this for free because on the last eight hospital bills I went over line by line they did not at any point charge for these "three shots" and they apparently gave them through some magic process that did not include actually giving them via injection or putting them in the IV.
Harmless Teddy Bear (Current working bookkeeper)
My 90 yo mom was just in the hospital from early Tuesday morning to late yesterday afternoon. No problem Tuesday ... yesterday morning, they wanted to give her a Lovenox shot. Mom was out of bed most of the time, sitting in a chair, taking herself to the bathroom, walking around the room at times to stretch her legs. She was going for a CT scan that morning & if her situation had resolved, she was going home ... if not, surgery was on the table. She declined the shot. She also declined another med being given in lieu of her regular med. CT scan was clear so she was glad she declined what she did & she was discharged.
BTW ... I was with her in the ER and all day both days, my brother early morning & evening. Mom can fend for herself, but does have some hearing loss, even with hearing aids, so we have someone with her during waking hours. She has been well-schooled to question every med, shot, etc. & she knows she can decline anything (which she did - 2 out of 3).
If they can stabilize you they get paid for it. Also they get a better reputation in the community and get to stay open and do business. Also they get your repeat business.
My hubs has been in and out of the hospital many times. If anything I feel like they send you home too soon and don’t allow you to get strong enough first before sending you home.
There is no profit in killing you
He starts with the statement "when you get into the hospital, the first thing they try to push on you is a pneumovax and a flu shot. "
Well.... no. Not in my state in the four hospitals I have had interaction with in the past five years.
In fact that has never even been brought up.
The WuFlu shot yes. The others no.
And you notice he does not bring up the WuFlu shot, the most heavily pushed shot out there. Curious that.
I have a serious reaction to chlorhexadine, a common 2% solution used in IV prep kits, that can cause anaphylaxis, and have noticed they do not check. I always ask when they start an IV if I am alert.
Same here.
Spent over two weeks with my wife in ICU. I was in that room for 90% of the time and when I was not in the room, a close family member was.
The writer is 100% correct about one thing. Don't you dare leave a seriously sick person alone in a hospital room without a caring family member advocate in the room!
“ Had a hallway chat with the doctor the next morning.”
As long as the doctor is not an egotistical a-hole, that’s a good solution. Unfortunately, my wife’s orthopedic surgeon was an egotistical anus who wanted to wave his medical degree & experience around rather than listen to me describe my wife’s issues with the pain management meds. Fortunately, his nurse-practitioner & the hospitalist intervened with abject acknowledgment the orthopedic surgeon was great in surgery but otherwise a black hole for people skills.
big whoop
Absolutely not. It depends on why they are in the hospital and their underlying disease. Post Op donor transplant surgery I received heparin three times a day. I had no risk factors except being in bed for many days and not walking which can cause clots to form. When I had a hip replacement I was not given heparin. I was up and mobile the same day and thus no risk for blood clots.
cpdiii hospital clinical pharmacist now retired.
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