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To: sevinufnine

Oh the old “Hell is real, so you better believe what I do” trope. I could educate you on the lunacy of that position with facts and logical fallacies, but why bother? If it makes you feel superior...well, that’s a deeper issue. Jesus came not to rescue you from himself. Ponder that for a while.


7 posted on 07/09/2024 7:52:38 AM PDT by pburgh01
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To: pburgh01

#1 I do not believe I am superior to any other human being and find it interesting you feel a need to view believers that way. #2. What I think doesn’t matter whatsoever. What God tells us in his Word/the Bible is what matters. #3 Jesus came to make appropriation for the sin of the world. There was nothing in the entire universe He needed saving from so your closing statement is completely irrational and is not something a sane person would ponder. Oh, and #4 hell is very real.


13 posted on 07/09/2024 11:12:49 AM PDT by sevinufnine
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To: pburgh01; sevinufnine; .45 Long Colt; Apple Pan Dowdy; BDParrish; Big Red Badger; BlueDragon; ...
Oh the old “Hell is real, so you better believe what I do” trope. I could educate you on the lunacy of that position with facts and logical fallacies, but why bother?

The appeal to warning about Hell is based upon the reality of consequences, but that itself presupposes a valid basis for believing the alternative, while it is the reasons behind refusal of the Lord Jesus that dams one, not simply not assent to a article of faith.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. (John 3:19-21)

And atheism itself is a position of faith.

14 posted on 07/10/2024 8:44:32 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: pburgh01
Jesus came not to rescue you from himself.

Seriously?

Ponder that for a while.

Doing a yoga mantra would be more intellectually productive that *pondering* that nonsense.

15 posted on 07/10/2024 8:51:11 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: pburgh01; daniel1212
Oh the old “Hell is real, so you better believe what I do” trope.

I think you are confused if you think people are actually trying to convince you that hell exists because it makes them feel superior.

The people I know that undertake to convince others of the existence of hell are almost always trying to save them from something they believe (yes, only believe) is worse than death itself.

Yes. This side of the grave, we cannot know for sure. Hell may exist...or it may not. You cannot prove or disprove it.

But it's not an intellectual debate. It's not the mental masturbation some folks--like you--think it is. This game is unavoidable...and you will find out if hell exists.

The question is, is this really a risk you are willing to take?

And BTW, all your facts and awareness of possible logical fallacies won't matter one bit if it turns out you are wrong. Your smugness and self-congratulation won't help if it turns out that, oops, you miscalculated.

17 posted on 07/10/2024 9:20:55 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (It's funny that the harder I work, the luckier I get.)
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To: pburgh01

What’s this?

An Evangelistic atheist?


25 posted on 07/10/2024 9:22:10 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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