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Democrats Have a ‘Plan C’ for Their Biden Problem (Place Barack Obama on the ticket as VP)
PJ Media ^ | 7/7/2024 | Matt Margolis

Posted on 07/07/2024 1:36:25 PM PDT by Signalman

Joe Biden appears to be in a free fall in the polls, yet he appears unwilling to drop out of the presidential race. His campaign, the White House, and the Democratic Party are all in chaos. If Biden won't leave, what is the party to do? If "Plan B" is replacing Biden and he won't go, a left-wing scholar is advocating a "Plan C" to save the president's floundering campaign.

Supporters of this plan suggest a straightforward strategy to counter Trump’s growing campaign momentum: replace Vice President Kamala Harris with former President Barack Obama.

“A Biden-Obama ticket would have a much better chance of beating Trump,” explained John Banzhaf, a professor at George Washington University Law School.

“Barack Obama is likely one of the few individuals whom a majority of Americans would want and trust as president," he claimed, without evidence. "Making Plan C possibly the least objectionable of several unappealing options now available to Biden and the Democratic Party."

Banzhaf argues that none of the alternatives to Biden appear to be in any better position to win the presidency, and even if they were, the money raised by the Biden-Harris campaign can't simply be transferred to another campaign.

You're probably thinking, "But what about the 22nd Amendment?"

Banzhaf argues that the 22nd Amendment, often cited as a barrier to Barack Obama serving as president again, doesn't actually prevent him from becoming vice president and then succeeding to the presidency.

The 22nd Amendment:

"No person shall be elected to the office of the president more than twice, and no person who has held the office of the president, or acted as president, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected president shall be elected to the office of the president more than once."

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To: Vendome
If you are barred from serving more than two terms, you are constitutionally barred to be VP

Technically, nothing in the Constitution prevents anyone from serving more than two terms. The 22nd Amendment prevents someone from being elected to more than 2 terms. That is the rub here. Now logic would seem to dictate that if you can't be elected as president you can't be elected as vice president, but there is nothing specifically in the Constitution about that. The 12th Amendment says if you are not constitutionally eligible to be president, you cannot be vice-president. The Constitution only has 3 eligibility requirements for president - over 35, natural born citizen, a resident of the US for the past 14 years.

The argument they will raise is that Obama obviously meets the constitutional eligibility requirements since he has already served as president before. They will argue that he could not be elected president, but if elected VP he could serve as president because he was not elected as president more than twice.

Keep in mind that we have already have had at least one president that was not elected as either president or vice-president. Gerald Ford was a congressman from Michigan when Spiro Agnew resigned. He was appointed as VP by Nixon and approved by Congress. Then Nixon resigned and Ford became president. So you could even see a scenario where Biden and some other person as VP (Harris would never go along with this) were elected. After being sworn in, the VP could resign and Biden could appoint Obama as VP. If the Dems had a majority in both houses of Congress, they could approve the appointment. Then Biden could resign and Obama would become president.

If SCOTUS decided this was a political question and refused to decide it, what could anyone do to stop it? And I can think of at least 4 votes on SCOTUS that would be happy to punt on an issue like this - the three libs and Roberts, Roberts because he wouldn't want SCOTUS to be seen as deciding the election. All they would need would be one more - Kavanaugh or ACB would both be good candidates. Remember, SCOTUS refused to get involved in any of the election cases in 2020.

61 posted on 07/07/2024 3:36:17 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Free at last, free at last, thank God Almighty, I am free at last)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I hear Shapiro’s popularity has slipped a bit in PA, but previous poster nailed it:

Who would want to hitch their wagon to Kamala in a race v Trump ?


62 posted on 07/07/2024 3:45:22 PM PDT by chiller (Davey Crockett said: "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead'. I'll go ahead.)
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To: cableguymn

The Democrats could have the Easter Bunny on the ticket—and the courts would let it happen.


63 posted on 07/07/2024 3:49:44 PM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: Signalman

Trial balloons starting


64 posted on 07/07/2024 3:53:05 PM PDT by Jonny7797
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To: Col Frank Slade; All

That’s the plan. The public is too stupid to understand to care. Besides, “The Constitution was written by a bunch of old white guys.”


65 posted on 07/07/2024 3:54:50 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: Signalman

Just makes me wonder what they don’t want us looking at while they trot out this endless supply of squirrels.


66 posted on 07/07/2024 4:07:31 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Signalman

Together they couldn’t beat President Trump. Everyone knows that it is Barack Hussein Obama that has America on its current path to destruction. It’s his third term. Everything they’re doing right now to take total control of the country is just a continuation of Barack’s original plan, illegal immigration, excessive untraceable spending overseas on unwinnable wars, and more. Even black voters in record shattering numbers are saying Barack Hussein Obama did nothing for them, Trump did so much more. Run Barack Run it will be great to see you overwhelmingly rejected.


67 posted on 07/07/2024 4:19:49 PM PDT by cquiggy (Ck)
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To: Signalman

This screwball plan just underlines how unfit Biden is to continue.

Actually, Biden is unfit to even finish out his current stolen term.


68 posted on 07/07/2024 4:29:45 PM PDT by citizen (Put all LBQTwhatever programming on a new subscription service: PERV-TV)
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To: Signalman

Make that Plan U, for “Unconstitutional”.


69 posted on 07/07/2024 4:31:05 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Signalman

DO IT!!!


70 posted on 07/07/2024 4:34:57 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Signalman

And IF they do it, who is gonna stop them....


71 posted on 07/07/2024 4:37:29 PM PDT by Democrat = party of treason
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To: howlinhound
Sorry for the hair split on this but Biden said "F-15s".
72 posted on 07/07/2024 4:37:57 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (“History doesn’t repeat itself but it often rhymes” - Possibly Mark Twain.)
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To: AndyJackson

Precisely. No freaking way they can do this. Moochelle of course not wanting the Pres job, especially if Harris is still the VP. See how that doesn’t work.

Bammy is trying to save his own historical a@@ here. And of course Trump is ready for these games, be assured.


73 posted on 07/07/2024 4:54:58 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: God luvs America

Yes, this “professor” neatly avoids the rather obvious— very early Amendment to deal with JUST THIS kind of thing. He cannot serve as VP because he has already served as President, two terms. Cannot do this.

This isn’t an original professor idea— Larry Tribe the looney seems to think it’s ok. Dershowitz should start setting these clowns straight— if he’s honest enough.


74 posted on 07/07/2024 4:57:40 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby
Amendment 12 "But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

He served two terms. He is ineligible.

75 posted on 07/07/2024 5:39:18 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Signalman

1) Unconstitutional, won’t work.
2) HOUSE must approve any new veep nomination. Johnson would block.
3) Zero is too lazy to run again.

If you want a major civil war in the DemoKKKrat party, try to oust the first female black veep.


76 posted on 07/07/2024 5:45:32 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." Jimi Hendrix)
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To: AndyJackson
Not qualified to run as vice president because he is not qualified to run as president since he already served two terms.

Laws and the Constitutional intent mean absolutely nothing to Democrats if they get in the way of something they want.

The only thing that matters is how much resistance and what kind of resistance the Democrats encounter to their impositions.

77 posted on 07/07/2024 6:12:05 PM PDT by flamberge (It seemed like a good idea at the time)
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To: AndyJackson

Exactly- and this ‘professor’ and larry tribe at columbia neatly skip over this rather obvious ineligibility. Which was wraught with the elimination of any more that two terms as President no matter when they are elected. That happened after FDR’s three sequential terms, during 3 term he fortunately died.

obamaumao is ineligble to be President, and thus also ineligible to be VP. These clowns are trying some fast footwork, trying to shop judge circuits and more.. Lawfare.


78 posted on 07/07/2024 6:21:09 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: CA Conservative

Stretching the what ifs quite a bit here. This assumes that any more “obama” inside an already crap filled Biden— is making sure people really know who has been screwing up our country ALL ALONG! It’s been obama, and Trump has pointed this out to all— even the bernie bots get this, and will not be backing biden or harris— or, obama the ghost rider.


79 posted on 07/07/2024 6:24:40 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: CA Conservative

Being President prior- for two terms IS an ineligible Constitutional definition— for either being a VP in the first place and President in the second. It’s not rocket science.

This is NOT something SCOTUS would need to address- it’s rather simple actually. And powers that be will not stand for this kind of S.American junta crapola.


80 posted on 07/07/2024 6:28:19 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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