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Biden Debate Debacle Could Be Disaster for GOP
RedState ^ | 6/2/2024 | Jason Belich

Posted on 07/02/2024 12:08:11 PM PDT by Signalman

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1 posted on 07/02/2024 12:08:11 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Signalman

I reject the premise of this article.

Cheating is cheating, Biden or no Biden.

Both issues are important but they are totally separate issues.


2 posted on 07/02/2024 12:10:35 PM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: Signalman

The upshot of 6/28 is Biden’s affect was terrible. A veteran debater had an off day. But all the policy reasons voters had for voting one way or the other remain. Is Trump less detestable for those who hate his guts? Is Biden less likeable to his fans? If anything, Biden gets the sympathy vote. For his fans, a lion in winter, but nonetheless a lion. If post debate polls are any indicator, the effect on Biden’s numbers were minimal, with a downtick of a point or two.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-biden

Real life is not a civics textbook. In politics, challengers turf their leaders not because they have to, but because they can. A CFO will connive with the board of directors to replace the CEO because it’s good to be CEO, and there’s no inherent right for anyone to be CEO, so why not the CFO?

Democrat contenders and consultants not in Biden’s inner circle aren’t worried about the Democrat party’s future. They saw a chink in his armor and were hoping to drive a truck thru it for personal gain. Openings for presidential nominations, and fresh slots in their entourages, don’t grow on trees.

But so far, nothing has changed. Away from CNN, every one of them polls worse than Biden. He’s a conniving bastard, but generally regarded as a nice guy.

Re debates, the thrill is gone. It’s now Dancing with the Stars, except boring, and with a less photogenic cast. So why do people agree to them? Both contenders are within low single digits. It’s like that old marketing dilemma - “Half the money I spend on advertising is wasted; the trouble is I don’t know which half.” When the numbers are this close and the debate stakes aren’t make or break, it’s an incremental bet.

Besides, when was the last time anyone stopped rooting for the home team because it lost big? Fact is - in elections -most people already have home teams.

Note also that the media generally thinks Biden is too moderate. Now that they have an opening to whale on Biden the Moderate(tm), they’re throwing everything but the kitchen sink at him.


3 posted on 07/02/2024 12:10:56 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Signalman

6/2/2024 | Jason Belich

Assuming Belich’s article was published today, 7/2 ?


4 posted on 07/02/2024 12:11:06 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist! )
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To: Signalman

Is there a Readers’ Digest version?


5 posted on 07/02/2024 12:11:15 PM PDT by madison10
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I’m actually more worried about this guy having our nuclear codes right now as opposed to worrying about the election. I do want to win, but he shouldn’t be in office at all, effective today. Don’t care if that means Harris is there for six months. We literally have a stalk of broccoli at the helm. I know....”Harris would be worse”....I’ll take my chances with a conscious human.


6 posted on 07/02/2024 12:13:46 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Signalman

Good article - early voting changes everything


7 posted on 07/02/2024 12:13:53 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Celebrate Climate Change !!!)
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To: madison10

*The Democrats are masters of reinvention*

We’re still learning.


8 posted on 07/02/2024 12:14:34 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Signalman
The risk is to be silent. Our national security is at stake, Biden needs to immediately resign.

If Biden resigns in favor of Harris, then Trump vs Harris. Match on.

If Biden resigns and the party picks someone else, Trump smiles and lets them self-destruct.

9 posted on 07/02/2024 12:15:24 PM PDT by Reno89519 (I'll go out on a limb: Trump & Gabbard 2024 or Trump & Sanders 2024)
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To: Signalman

Spinning like a centrifuge aren’t they?


10 posted on 07/02/2024 12:16:17 PM PDT by Bullish (...And just like that, I was dropped from the ping-list)
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To: Signalman

Jason Belich, professional punchbowl turd.
Thanks, Jason. Thanks a lot.


11 posted on 07/02/2024 12:16:50 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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To: cgbg

I reject the premise of this article.

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I do too. The argument that Democrats want Biden to go is false.

The MSM says go. Obama/Pelosi lawmakers say stay.


12 posted on 07/02/2024 12:17:44 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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To: Signalman
It’s like watching a sinking ship, and the crew is frantically trying to find the lifeboats. solve the problem by throwing the captain to the sharks.

That's more precise, isn't it?

13 posted on 07/02/2024 12:18:24 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Reno89519
The risk is to be silent. Our national security is at stake, Biden needs to immediately resign.

Agreed!
14 posted on 07/02/2024 12:19:18 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: 11th_VA
Early voting hurts Dems. Consider this, if Biden refuses to resign.

September 16/20, first votes. By October, maybe millions.

Biden resigns, what a mess, do they vote for someone not on the ballot?

Say the fix the ballot for the rest of the states. Maybe we get this (and for this lets say Dems cumulative get more votes):

Trump, 75 million

Harris, 40 million

Biden, 40 million

Dems cannot win with split ballot, votes cast for Biden cannot be recast or assigned to Harris.

Many states are winner take all. Trump could win 50 states!

15 posted on 07/02/2024 12:19:55 PM PDT by Reno89519 (I'll go out on a limb: Trump & Gabbard 2024 or Trump & Sanders 2024)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

learning? Or sitting on our hands? There’s a difference


16 posted on 07/02/2024 12:20:19 PM PDT by God luvs America (6young 3.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: Signalman

The GOPe is a disaster. It needs to go.


17 posted on 07/02/2024 12:20:47 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I think the jury is still out on what the Congressional Democrats really want.

They are publicly stating their support but they lie routinely. That is just their opening gambit.

They will take a hard look at internal polling numbers when they are available, particularly in important potentially contested Senate and Congressional races.

Then we will see where they really stand.


18 posted on 07/02/2024 12:21:35 PM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: madison10

Is there a Readers’ Digest version?]


Zuckerberg’s $400m ballot harvesting operation in Democrat areas worked. We need our own in GOP areas.


19 posted on 07/02/2024 12:22:19 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Signalman

Who are they going to pick? Every other likely Demonicrat is a lying, murdering traitor!!


20 posted on 07/02/2024 12:23:42 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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